3L Nissan Patrols..........

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Hercules
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Agree @bigcol did you see my ;) icon? And we have 2 3lt Patrols in my immediate family one the last of the models of the non CRD and one of the 1st CRD's. Both in excess of 250k and been around Australia towing. Sometimes more than once :).

Any info is good info.
As for how different 4x4's you have had I'm sure there is a lot of us on here who have had quite a few different models over the years, and that's why the forum is good as its always good to hear 1st hand experience.
 
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Well I will buy in, I have had both cruisers and patrols, currently driving a 3 lt 2002 Patrol, don't care what people think it suits me ATM, I have had 6 patrols, 3 landcruisers, a holden jackaroo, they have all had issues no matter what brand, wether petrol or diesel, if you are happy with what you have that is all that matters.
I went on a trip some years ago, I had a 2.8 TD patrol, mate had a 80 series cruiser TD, another bloke had a 4.2 diesel patrol after market turbo and the other a 60 seriers cruiser TD, we were all towing we all fueled at the same service stations, they all used within $2 of each other, yet before the trip all I heard was how far the cruiser drivers could get on a tank, proved em wrong, since then don't listen to any BS about economy etc.

cheers Greg
 

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I'll weigh in here, I have a 2006 D22 ZD30 TD Navara, bought new in Feb 2007. It is the last of the ZD30 (no common rail) motor and was replaced by the D40. It has about 155,000 km on the clock and has just done around 5000 km out to the corner. It gets serviced every 10,000 and I change the oil every 5000. It has run almost faultlessly, the only problem was a pipe from the turbo splitting which was replaced under warranty. I have had gas fitted to the beast after around 20,000 km and this does provide a bit more grunt. I also have a Beaudesert mandrel bent 2.75" exhaust and have done the EGR mod and a stronger suspension that gives about 75 mm lift.

I am very happy with the Nav, and satisfied with the way it tows but I am waiting to see how it handles the new Journey when it arrives. My only complaint is the ridiculously high first gear making it hard to start moving on a hill with the van on the back. Thank heavens for low range.:D
 

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Well, just had our 3L patrol at Freo fuel injection. They said that the Dyno showed it losing power. ( something about starting at 65 then dropping to 40). Said they'd see if they can find where, but came back with
"lets change the fuel filter ( which we said yes to) as well as we can try changing the maf sensor and see if that helps. You can drive it around and see if it makes a difference. Then if it does, great, otherwise we can try something else. ".
Won't mention the price, so rang a nissan dealership who said they'd do the maf under warranty if they found a fault with it. ( guy at nissan and at FFI spoke about car, guy from nissan said yes to warranty, guy at FFI said that's not what he was told)
Not happy though, as at the start they said they'd have a report for us, and after us saying we'd prefer to have the maf changed under warranty , all we got was a receipt and saying that a new AMM changes the rear wheel power from 60KW to 65KW, and they recommend a new AMM and trail vehicle. ( what is a trail vehicle????)
This car is one big headache. Glad they confirmed the loss of power, just want it fixed.
 

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ring up UFI (United Fuel Injection) and book it in

my Bro-in-law had his Patrol Dyno'd at a "reputable" center- they said 40Kw rear wheel - even gave him a copy of the run sheet
took it to UFI - and it was 65Kw at the rear wheels - all he did was drive it from one place to another.......
also found out that his Injectors were fine, etc....... next stop for him is the pump itself.

but thats beside the this story..........

get your Brother (I think you said) to take the MAF sensor out and clean it, you will see if its dirty when removed
if it isn't improved, take it to Nissan and plug the scanner in to it.
make sure all is ok

then take it to UFI for advice on where to go from there
 

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ring up UFI (United Fuel Injection) and book it in

my Bro-in-law had his Patrol Dyno'd at a "reputable" center- they said 40Kw rear wheel - even gave him a copy of the run sheet
took it to UFI - and it was 65Kw at the rear wheels - all he did was drive it from one place to another.......
also found out that his Injectors were fine, etc....... next stop for him is the pump itself.

but thats beside the this story..........

get your Brother (I think you said) to take the MAF sensor out and clean it, you will see if its dirty when removed
if it isn't improved, take it to Nissan and plug the scanner in to it.
make sure all is ok

then take it to UFI for advice on where to go from there
Giant nissan guy booked it in for Tuesday and will do the maf under warranty after speaking to the guys at FFI, regardless of paperwork. He will also investigate the rest of the stuff, including the diff module that the auto sparky couldn't communicate with using his new scan tool.
If there is nothing found I'm going up to United. Just thought a similar place 10 mins from home would be easier.
 

bigcol

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including the diff module that the auto sparky couldn't communicate with using his new scan tool.
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curiouser and curiouser

I will ask on one of the Forums I am on...
what exactly is it doing - this Diff light and whats it doing again..???
- refresh my memory please?
 

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Diff lock light comes on flickering at first then solid. ( hasn't done it for about 2 months now). occurs when going over bumps in the road. We assume the car does engage the diff lock when in low range and selected. ( haven't used it yet in that capacity), but car yard checked it out and said it went in and out as it was meant to.
We thought it may have been an electrical wire not put on properly, but sparky checked it and said the rear module didn't communicate with his new scan tool, so there was something not right.
Thanks for checking on those sites big col. I went on there and tried to read the posts, but had no idea what I was reading. Mechanics are definitely not my strong point! ( or hubby's. He said they are very different from when he had his hilux with a 253 in it)
 

bigcol

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the diff module that the auto sparky couldn't communicate with using his new scan tool.

right, the Scan tool he has wont talk to the Diff Lock system, as the Diff Lock system is NOT part of the Body Control Module. - so his scan tool wont help him

it sounds to me more like an Earth Problem to me - loose or dirty......
there are 2 earths on the Diff Lock system
1 under the bonnet where it goes into the Diff Lock Actuator - (Passenger side I think on the fire wall)
(from the actuator to the Diff is Vacuum operated, so unless the hose has a leak...... in which case the light for the Diff Lock will NOT be flickering, it just wont work)
1 behind the radio part of the dash - off the switch -

check that the switch is earthing properly (test light and multi meter)

and that, should fix it.........

sometimes it is as easy as pulling the leads off, and cleaning them, and thats all it takes, sometimes its a little harder

maybe also, fit another Earth strap from the Battery to the Chassis (I have 1 from batt to chass on Main battery, and 1 from Batt to engine on 2nd battery)

hope this helps..........
 
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Sparky re earthed the car, or some part of it when he fitted a battery isolator solenoid. ( that's what the box says) for us so that the new van doesn't drain the batteries if we forget it's plugged in.
Those hoses have been checked and are ok. The first car yard said the breather hoses had come off and they "cleaned them as they were full of salt and dirt".when checked, both my brother and another car yard couldn't find any evidence they had been off, and were stumped as to why they would clean out a bit of rubber hose that was easier to replace. But then again that first car yard said they had stripped the diff and it was cactus and we could pay $600 and get a second hand one put in. ( all in less than a day ).
Will get book out tomorrow, or Google, where the actuator is and put the multimeter on it. (Don't have a test light) and see what it does. thank goodness for Google!
 

bigcol

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if I could get my "Nissan FAST" (parts and schematics program) to work I would give you a copy of the diagrams.......
but it runs on WinXP - and I run Win7 on this Puter (and sucky win8 on my Tablet)

might have to get a newer version soon "me thinks"........
 

Smirke

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if I could get my "Nissan FAST" (parts and schematics program) to work I would give you a copy of the diagrams.......
but it runs on WinXP - and I run Win7 on this Puter (and sucky win8 on my Tablet)

might have to get a newer version soon "me thinks"........
Know that feeling. Got win XP, win 7, macs n iPads here