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Kenshi123

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I was going to suggest there as well, we just booked there for Ballarat show weekend Thurs to Sun we have been there a couple of times. It`s cheaper to go there for 3 nights than 1 hour at the show. Did you take a fire drum? they allow them there as long as they`re off the ground. Feel free to rebook if you want for 3 weeks time.

Wish we could mate!! I don't get show day off though. Will definitely come back here though. Have you stayed at Burumbeet or Learmonth?
 

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No I haven't I have memories of 20years ago lots of permanents might be worth a look. 4:22 up feeding hey lol ?
 

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Taking the expanda to the dealers today so they can fit my annex. Getting ready for summer!

I will pick her up next Friday and we have our annual staff function that weekend where many of us take our vans to a local caravan park and live it up. Might be a good chance to test out the annex.
 
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Went with Let Lock. New supplier. He used to work for bartletts. Same material as them but better finish IMO.
I have heard of them but havent seen any yet .Sounds good we went with Bartletts and were happy. You will have to put some pics up when you get it.
 

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I have heard of them but havent seen any yet .Sounds good we went with Bartletts and were happy. You will have to put some pics up when you get it.
Will do mate. We had a Bartletts annex on our eagle and were happy with the quality. Jayco Ballarat is full to the brim at the moment. Everyone is getting ready for summer.
 

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Hi Kenshi.

I don't get away in my van much these days, so I go on mind holidays and look at everyone else's pics, yours included.

It's great to have an Expanda, but for me, it'll be even better if I ever get time away to use it.

Just another question about your 2nd battery installation.

Is installing a second battery just as simple as connecting them with battery cable positive to positive, negative to negative, shoving them both in battery boxes and securing them down?

I called by Battery World yesterday and fired a few questions at the staff which included

1. Does the second battery have to be the same size as the first?
Answer was:- No you can put a 120 Amp Hour battery beside your 100Amp Hour and run in parallel.

2. Does it matter that my first battery is a few years old when I install my brand new second battery?
Answer was:- No, it doesn't really matter. Your old battery may only be running at 90% of its original capacity but that really doesn't matter.

3. What sort of battery should I install?
Answer was:- Install an AGM. These batteries charge up to 14.4 Volts whereas Gel batteries only go slightly above 13 Volts. AGM handle vibration better, and like Gel can be charged quickly (at high amperage)

4. Do I need to change my battery charger? (Mine is also a 10amp charger)
Answer was:- No, not at all. It will still charge at the same rate. You just have the ability to use more power, and if you do it'll just take longer to recharge.

Example:- If my 100amp hour battery uses 60 amps then my 10 amp charger should recharge it in 6 hours.
If my 200amp hour batteries use 60 amps then my 10 amp charger should still recharge in 6 hours.
If I use 150 amps of battery power, then it'll just take 15 hours to recharge.

I also have a 110 watt solar panel for unpowered camping that I think puts in around 6 amps through the day light.
5. If my battery is 100amps, does that mean I can use the whole 100amps?
Answer was:- No. The AGM batteries are designed to take a power draw of about 80% so technically a 100 amp hour battery really only gives around 80 amps before it cuts out and needs to be recharged. Older style batteries are only really capabale of dropping to around 50% charge.

I'll also paste this up on Technical Section for others to throw their two bobs worth in.
 

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Hi Kenshi.

I don't get away in my van much these days, so I go on mind holidays and look at everyone else's pics, yours included.

It's great to have an Expanda, but for me, it'll be even better if I ever get time away to use it.

Just another question about your 2nd battery installation.

Is installing a second battery just as simple as connecting them with battery cable positive to positive, negative to negative, shoving them both in battery boxes and securing them down?

For me I made sure I had certain cable (6b&s) and hooked them up with this.


I called by Battery World yesterday and fired a few questions at the staff which included

1. Does the second battery have to be the same size as the first?
Answer was:- No you can put a 120 Amp Hour battery beside your 100Amp Hour and run in parallel.

2. Does it matter that my first battery is a few years old when I install my brand new second battery?
Answer was:- No, it doesn't really matter. Your old battery may only be running at 90% of its original capacity but that really doesn't matter.

3. What sort of battery should I install?
Answer was:- Install an AGM. These batteries charge up to 14.4 Volts whereas Gel batteries only go slightly above 13 Volts. AGM handle vibration better, and like Gel can be charged quickly (at high amperage)

4. Do I need to change my battery charger? (Mine is also a 10amp charger)
Answer was:- No, not at all. It will still charge at the same rate. You just have the ability to use more power, and if you do it'll just take longer to recharge.

Example:- If my 100amp hour battery uses 60 amps then my 10 amp charger should recharge it in 6 hours.
If my 200amp hour batteries use 60 amps then my 10 amp charger should still recharge in 6 hours.
If I use 150 amps of battery power, then it'll just take 15 hours to recharge.

I also have a 110 watt solar panel for unpowered camping that I think puts in around 6 amps through the day light.
5. If my battery is 100amps, does that mean I can use the whole 100amps?
Answer was:- No. The AGM batteries are designed to take a power draw of about 80% so technically a 100 amp hour battery really only gives around 80 amps before it cuts out and needs to be recharged. Older style batteries are only really capabale of dropping to around 50% charge.

I'll also paste this up on Technical Section for others to throw their two bobs worth in.

Hmmm....I no expert in the matter but I am pretty sure that the charging rates you describe are incorrect. I believe that to get a deep cycle battery to 100% charge it needs certain charge cycles. Battery chargers are designed to do this automatically as is the setec unit.
For example t0 get your battery from 80% to 100% will take a lot longer as it will need to be in float charge. I think it is designed to prolong the use of the battery.

In terms of mixing and matching...I chose the same batt to ensure maximum output. Although I have heard of different size batteries being wired in with no issue.

Once again, not an expert but this is what I have read.
 
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A couple of updates. Just small things. I bought a $10 temp gauge for the weber. Could have bought the high lid for $120 o_O



The other thing was the annex was fitted today. :D:D:D
Picked her up today and will try her out this weekend. Gonna look strange hosing it down at the CP :oops:
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Will post pics of the set up on the weekend.

Cheers.
 

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Hmmm....I no expert in the matter but I am pretty sure that the charging rates you describe are incorrect. I believe that to get a deep cycle battery to 100% charge it needs certain charge cycles. Battery chargers are designed to do this automatically as is the setec unit.
For example t0 get your battery from 80% to 100% will take a lot longer as it will need to be in float charge. I think it is designed to prolong the use of the battery.

In terms of mixing and matching...I chose the same batt to ensure maximum output. Although I have heard of different size batteries being wired in with no issue.

Once again, not an expert but this is what I have read.

We manufacture battery chargers mainly for OE customers all around the world, the only thing I will say is the rating on a charger is the MAXIMUM output. A 10amp charger will only charge 10 amps for a period of time dependant on many factors, I have graphed almost all battery chargers available in Australia and other countries and I can tell you none of them charge their maximum rated amperage for extended periods including ours and C-Tek. Just something to consider.
 

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We manufacture battery chargers mainly for OE customers all around the world, the only thing I will say is the rating on a charger is the MAXIMUM output. A 10amp charger will only charge 10 amps for a period of time dependant on many factors, I have graphed almost all battery chargers available in Australia and other countries and I can tell you none of them charge their maximum rated amperage for extended periods including ours and C-Tek. Just something to consider.
Cheers for the clarification. I didn't think they did. When I have used my van for free camping I was sure they took longer to charge that what was described above.
 
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Thought I would post a pic of our New annex. Put it up but on a sloping site. Gave it a hose down to waterproof it. Great quality!
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As you can see, we have been doing it hard.... Weber roast was amazing.
 
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@Kenshi123 Way to go there. Q: do you a roof rafter for the awning to stop the sag?? They help a heap for water run off. Pace.
G'day @Pace no centre rafter. Might be worth the investment. Next thing for us will be a pole carrier for the afk. Then maybe look at the spare wheel and a toolbox.

Cheers!
 

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Kenshi!
Annexe looks great
Baked dinner looks even better

One day I hope to show you pics of my van & annexe all set up with the webber dinner on the table, kayaks, bikes all sitting around the camp site with me in the back ground sipping on a can of Jim Beam actually on holidays, actually having fun and not stuck at work all the time.

Once again, I appreciate your pics. Makes me feel like I`m on a holiday.

Quite pathetic I know!

:):):):)
 
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