thanks @Holden_man thats good advice about insurance . lets hope they get the money quick and it hasnt put them off caravaning forever and the fault is found so it wont happen again
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Thanks for the advice HM and I am glad to hear that things are working out for your parents. Good luck with everything!
Whilst we all are in the quest to install Gas Detectors I do have a question for the experts here....
Is it safe to install the detector near gas appliances? (I know it would defeat the purpose otherwise but I am thinking would the electrical in the detector itself could trigger an explosion if there is a Gas leak)?
(Sorry if this sounds like a silly question) :baby:
Whilst we all are in the quest to install Gas Detectors I do have a question for the experts here....
Is it safe to install the detector near gas appliances? (I know it would defeat the purpose otherwise but I am thinking would the electrical in the detector itself could trigger an explosion if there is a Gas leak)?
(Sorry if this sounds like a silly question) :baby:
Well... guess I'll have Mr W moving our detector tonight!!!! Thank you for the warning :thumb:
Received my LPG Detector this morning also.
Location instructions were similar to @Holden_man 's above.
15 - 30mm (6" - 12") above the floor.
As close to the Gas Appliance as possible but no more than 4M (13') away from the Appliance.
Picked up the CO Detector from the Big Green Shed last night so looks like I have some work to do tomorrow
Location instructions were similar to @Holden_man 's above.
15 - 30mm (6" - 12") above the floor.
As close to the Gas Appliance as possible but no more than 4M (13') away from the Appliance.
Picked up the CO Detector from the Big Green Shed last night so looks like I have some work to do tomorrow
The detector should go off before it gets to a explosive level other wise it would be pointless.
Mine came in the post this am, now need to go to van storage site and work out where the best place is to install it, low down, near stove and 12 v power so it won't get kicked or knocked.
Received my gas detector yesterday as per @Holden_man recomendation/link. Get co detector tomorrow. The forum should have done a bulk buy???
first off - we are NOT experts (X being an unknown quantity and a "spert" is a drip under pressure)
merely semi informed potential dangerous to our selves kind of people, who rely on others thoughts to aimlessly bumble our way through life.........
(its a Joke son...........................)
righto, got that bit out of the way
now, the way the Gas detectors are designed, they have an alarm that goes off at a set level of "PPM" - parts per Million
or a % of gas / air
they are usually set at or around 8 - 12 % (I think someone said) - which in a confined place dont sound too bad - but it still is
8% of the air in your Van is not very much
8% of the air in a sealed sea container is alot
just to put it into perspective, imagine standing 40 feet away from your lit BBQ and the alarm going off...............
any way
they are designed to pick up the small amount in the air, and set the alarm off - which will give you time to either run, or turn the gas off
but if you have it next to the joint that goes into your Oven, and it goes off - then you know you have a leak at that join
the power to run them, in the area they are, is not enough to ignite it - unless you leave the gas on, for a day or so, with the music blearing out and you cannot hear the alarm
as a side though
how many times have you seen someone pull up at a servo to get fuel, and be talking on the phone..........????
you have a far greater chance of Static Electric Spark from your clothes, than you do from a mobile phone
I went looking for the RVD devices assuming it was industry thing like the RCD and it turns out theres only the one, invented by Safelec. I came across a very long winded technical debate about the RVD merits on Grey Nomads Forum. If you want a brain bleed with the number of technical big words and concepts that make no sense to normal folk, along with the reasons why this thing is both the saviour of the modern world, and the prophet of doom ... click the link. Dont say I didn't warn you.
Doing it now, after you've ordered, would really show how much we all mean to you.
No mate it just can't exceed the rating of the wiring. So a 20 should be able to replace a 16. Depends on the wiring gauge.
That's great and I think there is a LOT of old wives tales told about insurance companies. Recently after hail here the NRMA so far have been gold and have not at one point looked to cut corners or cost.
Yesterday sorting out an incident my 87 yo mum had back in March at a roundabout it was looking like she was uninsured due to it lapping by a month with the GIO. fortunately last night I found she had switched insurers but before that the GIO were offering for me to pay the months insurance premium and they would then process the claim!!!!
Doesn't sound like the scum sucking stories you here about insurance companies refusing to pay out because your dirty socks took the van over the plated GVM by 500grams does it!
I Am sure there are nasty insurance companies and I have even had a stoush once but overall I hear more good than bad tbh.
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Not that it should affect its performance and given its low voltage but fyi and if it ever becomes a requirment to have detectors UL certification has no compliance here (or never used to a few years ago)
I suppose its like putting a larger fuse in your car, you may be alright but it may burn to the ground as well, so I put the same size back in.
Also you have a 15amp inlet on the van so why would you put a smaller 10amp circuit breaker in?
If that's what your asking??
Yeah. Wondering what you were referring to with checking against whats already installed.
I bought this same gas detector for my van as well it is a great unit.
Hard wired to 12v so plenty of battery life.