Test n tag
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I went and done the tafe course and I have a tester .
I might have to check my own leads as I've never been asked at any caravan park
I might have to check my own leads as I've never been asked at any caravan park
It's not even on the list of question when I book at a place and it's actually someones mis interpretation of the regs I reckon, otherwise we should have every bit of gear in the van tagged and it's just like the shackle email, a hoax thats run rampant. I certainly won't be asking and if a van park ask's me "It will be a case of you show me yours first ".
What colour tag do I need ???????
What colour tag do I need ???????
Note: Any caravan/campervan leads connected to our power outlets must be 15 AMP tested and tagged! The use of double adaptors is not allowed!
From the treasure Island web site that started my rant
When I asked for clarification...
If your caravan is brand new and the leads are brand new then you do not need to have testing and tagging done as long as you can verify the purchase date of your caravan being within the last 12 months. If the leads are over 12 months old they will need to be tested and tagged by an authorised electrician in your area.
I hope this helps
Treasure Island Facebook Team
Clear as mud!
From the treasure Island web site that started my rant
When I asked for clarification...
If your caravan is brand new and the leads are brand new then you do not need to have testing and tagging done as long as you can verify the purchase date of your caravan being within the last 12 months. If the leads are over 12 months old they will need to be tested and tagged by an authorised electrician in your area.
I hope this helps
Treasure Island Facebook Team
Clear as mud!
I have stayed there before and never got asked the question, I wonder if it's just arse covering? They've said you have to do it, you don't and there is an issue its on you? Dunno, that could be their reasoning? Maybe?
That's funny, they assume if you buy a new van, that you bought a new lead! I just bought a new van but am using my old lead, guess I can stay there no problems without a tag 
You better believe it.
It's straying away from the Topic but I doubt that the average person realizes how much of their life has been changed behind their backs by so many rule's and regulation's. Test & Tagging is just one that hasn't yet affected most people outside of workplaces. Workers that have had to go on to worksites such as mines and oil or gas facilities would know how far this all goes. With the latest LNG plant being built here I've had some close dealings with some who had to go there and it's as silly as diesel engine vehicles are OK but not petrol and having to change in to special suits on entry. They've now banned mobiles but that was because of leaked photo's of a dangerous and expensive accident. The plant actually isn't yet in production or even connected to the sub sea gas line.
We used to have a saying about our staff going out to many sites that they had their vehicle packed with equipment and had to tow a trailer with all the documentation. That was until common sense prevailed and they were allowed to have the documents on a laptop. One area of documentation that has gone overboard is the need to carry all Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS's). For every chemical there is a relevant MSDS detailing the dangers, method of use and what to do if help is required to deal with problems. Once you start requiring people to have them with them and go right in to it all you find that there is even sheets for biro's, small dry cell batteries for tools/phones right through to your personal use sunscreens, insect sprays etc. Think of all your items in your van and you will likely find an MSDS for them. Someone even made up one for Women (not official though, maybe).
I have a relative involved in concrete testing and has been required to go and take samples from the ground slabs being poured for bus stops. Either they have gone overboard or they just don't trust the Contractor's, or both. For a house extension next door we found out that now up this way the soil has to be tested before deciding what specifications the concrete slab has to meet. This apparently was already a requirement elsewhere in the country. This extension was butting up to an existing house slab built in 1982 and surrounded by 3 other properties from the same period and none of the existing were soil tested or have any cracks in them. Due to the soil test results the whole area for the extension had to be excavated to a depth of a metre and refilled and compacted with road base material to strengthen it. This all cost $50,000 and people wonder why houses are becoming so expensive to build. Regulations that defy logic.
Another rant done.
OH&S (Outside Horsing around & Smoking) has killed commonsense
I agree whole heartedly with you @PhilD
where I am currently working, there is a Powerhouse (with Wartsila Generators), going through whatever power goes through to the offices
all the officers have RCD'd for every (EVERY Power point)
plugged into said power point is a Power pack
plugged into the power pack, is the computer & Monitor
also a power pack for the printers
in the Office we have 3 computer stations, 2 printers, a fridge, Urn, Micro, small Oven, and surveillance gear
ALL are plugged into Power packs
also have 2 work stations in the warehouse , same deal
1 x electrician @ $110.00 p/H
3.5 hours to Test & Tag everything
every 3 months.............
thats just our stores..........
what a joke
I agree whole heartedly with you @PhilD
where I am currently working, there is a Powerhouse (with Wartsila Generators), going through whatever power goes through to the offices
all the officers have RCD'd for every (EVERY Power point)
plugged into said power point is a Power pack
plugged into the power pack, is the computer & Monitor
also a power pack for the printers
in the Office we have 3 computer stations, 2 printers, a fridge, Urn, Micro, small Oven, and surveillance gear
ALL are plugged into Power packs
also have 2 work stations in the warehouse , same deal
1 x electrician @ $110.00 p/H
3.5 hours to Test & Tag everything
every 3 months.............
thats just our stores..........
what a joke
Preaching to the converted here guys, When I go to site, to avoid disappointment and frustration, I go on the expectation that I will get nothing done, if I get something done, well then it's a bonus. And you wonder why they're loosing money!
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I was Depot Support for many years, first in for IT maintenance, Depot maintenance and OH&S Rep. Was forced in to a position of a Manager or possible redundancy (should have taken it then). Title became DCM (Delivery Compliance Manager) but decided due to lack of support from both lower staff and higher management that Title should have either been Delivering Company Mail or Don't Come Monday. I was getting increasingly more grumpy (wife would disagree that it was worse) and sooner or later was going to go verbally postal. Quickly got sick of it and extra pay wasn't worth it so told boss in a slightly polite way to shove it. Was offered redundancy soon afterwards. Person who took over from me quickly understood all that I was going through and renamed it Doubtful Career Move. Was a real shame that at his age he died soon afterwards in an alcohol related manner. When your job becomes so involved with documentation and general paper shuffling instead of hands on and satisfying it can be a case of it just isn't worth it any more to remain. If I have any real frustrations these days it's rental properties and Tenants, but then again they are helping to maintain the retirement so it's not all bad.
as was explained to me the other day by a Mines Inspector
they have come up with this "wonderful" idea - self regulation.........
hhhhmmmmmm
mind you, he did keep pointing out Sections 9 + 10 + 11 of the Mines Act (WA) specify that I have a duty of care...... not the boss.......
major major cop out I feel
they have come up with this "wonderful" idea - self regulation.........
hhhhmmmmmm
mind you, he did keep pointing out Sections 9 + 10 + 11 of the Mines Act (WA) specify that I have a duty of care...... not the boss.......
major major cop out I feel
Self regulation, what a wonderful idea, NOT.
I had a not so wonderful encounter years ago with a Builder and a Plumber that both had Self Certification approval for the installation of a solar hot water system. I refused to pay for a few months and had them back 4 times to rectify problems. Not 100% satisfied but eventually settled. Tried to complain to relevant building authority about their unsatisfactory work and that their Self Certification status ought to be revoked until the Companies had shown that they could comply with their obligations. Was dismissed with the statement that as we had finalised the matter it wasn't their concern.
I had a not so wonderful encounter years ago with a Builder and a Plumber that both had Self Certification approval for the installation of a solar hot water system. I refused to pay for a few months and had them back 4 times to rectify problems. Not 100% satisfied but eventually settled. Tried to complain to relevant building authority about their unsatisfactory work and that their Self Certification status ought to be revoked until the Companies had shown that they could comply with their obligations. Was dismissed with the statement that as we had finalised the matter it wasn't their concern.
As I was once an EEO Rep I should in all fairness post a sample of a Male MSDS. Must offend both sides equally.
Both obtained from http://www.safetyrisk.net
Both obtained from http://www.safetyrisk.net
Never been asked at any campsite, but if you want to get one over them, head into the electrical aisle in the big green shed - they sell packs of blank test tags. Just fill it out yourself. Not condoning any illegal activity but......
I had it tagged out of fear of being checked! Free thanks to a suggestion here of where to go
But yes. Easy to buy a load of tags!
But yes. Easy to buy a load of tags!
There isn't really a need to be fearful and I doubt that it was the intention of anyone here to create an impression that it should be feared. If the small number of comments I've seen on any Forum are correct there is currently little likelihood that many would come across being challenged over their power leads. If so, and you haven't got them tagged, then just go elsewhere. But getting it done should give some peace of mind that your lead, and any thing else you may get tested, was safe at the time of testing.
As to the idea of just purchasing a quantity of blank tags and labelling them yourself, I would say that it's a very bad idea. If in the possibly unlikely eventuality that an item of yours causes a fault and someone is injured, or worse, you would be asked to prove that the item was tested and tagged by a qualified person. This could be in the form of a Receipt, but when I was working these Tags were filled out with the Tester's details such as name, signature and Licence number. If it came out in Court that you had falsified the Tag I would suggest that your Insurance Company would not cover you and you could be in for a personal claim against you. Insurance Policy's have a allowance for Public Liability and could be in the order of $20,000,000 for such claims. Now unless you have a VERY large Bank Account, isn't the small fee for a Legal Test & Tag worth protecting yourself?
As to the idea of just purchasing a quantity of blank tags and labelling them yourself, I would say that it's a very bad idea. If in the possibly unlikely eventuality that an item of yours causes a fault and someone is injured, or worse, you would be asked to prove that the item was tested and tagged by a qualified person. This could be in the form of a Receipt, but when I was working these Tags were filled out with the Tester's details such as name, signature and Licence number. If it came out in Court that you had falsified the Tag I would suggest that your Insurance Company would not cover you and you could be in for a personal claim against you. Insurance Policy's have a allowance for Public Liability and could be in the order of $20,000,000 for such claims. Now unless you have a VERY large Bank Account, isn't the small fee for a Legal Test & Tag worth protecting yourself?
Not fearful of comments! More that we book somewhere as we were going to do. Paid for .. Get there. Check lead and it's not tagged
Wouldn't risk falsifying a tag.
Wouldn't risk falsifying a tag.
My head hurts reading this, time to up the invertor size I think and not bother plugging to power any more.