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On the draw bar I have found generally anything within 900mm of the tow hitch pivot point is likely to hit the rear of the tug, utes with tray backs will and very easily sweep across the the draw bar and take things out...... thats something I can attest to .......
You don’t need a tray back to do that. I have taken out the BT50 tail lights on both sides at different times. :confused-87:
 

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I have taken out the BT50 tail lights on both sides at different times.

I think we all have done that or come close tubs or wagons but with a tray back the tray can wipe out everything if in range depends how far you jack knife...usually a stone guard will alert you as it bends underneath the tray......... damn wandering again.......
 
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You really lose a lot of storage with the 3rd bunk don't you. Some models of Webber Baby Q's will fit in the tunnel boot quite easily. They're the ones without the temp gauge in the hood. Otherwise the more superior Ziggy single burner will fit in the easiest :p

I have seen boxes available that will fit between the Drawbar in front of the gas bottle housing. They come with a lid and are a great option for hose storage. They sit flush with the top and bottom of the drawbar. Ill see if I can find an example.
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Do you mean something like this?
 

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Do you mean something like this?
Yeah, but not as tall. And it fits in between the a-frame itself. Someone in one of the many jayco or caravanning groups I'm in on Facebook posted it once. Buggered if I can find it.
But someone should be able to fabricate one to your needs.
The reason the one I saw was so low profile, was so the cover over the gas bottles could still be opened.
 

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Yeah, but not as tall. And it fits in between the a-frame itself. Someone in one of the many jayco or caravanning groups I'm in on Facebook posted it once. Buggered if I can find it.
But someone should be able to fabricate one to your needs.
The reason the one I saw was so low profile, was so the cover over the gas bottles could still be opened.
The gas bottle cover folds all the way down to the draw bar. But you really only need to fold just enough to get the gas bottles which is about half way. Which is where I placed that bit of timber.
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I think a 450mm - 500mm deep x 900mm wide will work well and still have plenty of space between the hand brake.

Just need to work out the ideal size to fit the specific gear I want to store in there.SmartSelect_20210407-183106_Evernote.jpg
 

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Trying to find a reasonably priced Weber Slide for the tunnel boot. Tunnel boot is only 350mm in height. Weber Q (with temp guage) is about 400mm high.
I need a slide that has its slide tray as low as possible. I will have to cut the legs off the Weber to make it work. Saw this method on YouTube (TIAV).
 

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On a different topic; does anyone have an instantaneous hot water unit in their van. 2021 Journey have this type of HWU. I had a storage tank on my Expanda which was about 20 litres which I was happy with. Not really convinced yet with my instantaneous unit on my new van. You have to wait a little for the hot water to arrive and it only arrives if you have certain pressure. If you just want to trickle the water out the HWU does not fire up to heat the water. The benefit of having never ending continuous hot water is probably not really a benefit in a caravan, especially off grid. I would have liked to have been given the option...
 

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On a different topic; does anyone have an instantaneous hot water unit in their van. 2021 Journey have this type of HWU. I had a storage tank on my Expanda which was about 20 litres which I was happy with. Not really convinced yet with my instantaneous unit on my new van. You have to wait a little for the hot water to arrive and it only arrives if you have certain pressure. If you just want to trickle the water out the HWU does not fire up to heat the water. The benefit of having never ending continuous hot water is probably not really a benefit in a caravan, especially off grid. I would have liked to have been given the option...
I installed a Camec heater in my older van around 18 months ago. I installed an instantaneous heater because as a plumber gasfitter I love the concept of instantaneous heaters based on experience of Rinnai type domestic heaters.
New to the market I chose the Dometic heater somewhat on price and function being similar to the Smartec heater that I had been relying on. Any way the first heater was was problematic and being a gas fitter, in consultation with Camec I did a lot of fault finding for them. In the end they sent me a new heater and that one has been a little more successful but still not great.
The problem all relates to the flow control valve that triggers the burner, not enough flow and the heater won’t light, to much flow and the heater will light but the flow is to quick to heat the water. It works better on pump pressure and with the sink aerator removed but you can dump a lot of water before getting to a useable temperature.
Interestingly, I installed Truma instantaneous heaters in 3 new van builds of mates and are aware that have been working fantastically with one van being permanently on the road and in use. Although they are double the price I think the Truma is the better option.
 

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On a different topic; does anyone have an instantaneous hot water unit in their van. 2021 Journey have this type of HWU. I had a storage tank on my Expanda which was about 20 litres which I was happy with. Not really convinced yet with my instantaneous unit on my new van. You have to wait a little for the hot water to arrive and it only arrives if you have certain pressure. If you just want to trickle the water out the HWU does not fire up to heat the water. The benefit of having never ending continuous hot water is probably not really a benefit in a caravan, especially off grid. I would have liked to have been given the option...
There is a device you can get that stops water wastage while you wait for the hot to come through the taps.
https://www.redwater.net.au/index.php/tech-info.html

Yes the trip in a van mod they did to their original Weber slide was good. So disappointed they only did a limited run of their fabricated weber slide. It looked bloody mint.
 
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Trying to find a reasonably priced Weber Slide for the tunnel boot. Tunnel boot is only 350mm in height. Weber Q (with temp guage) is about 400mm high.

Bunnings have the slide rails and all you have to do is build the tray so you get what you want for a quarter of the price.... I did that with my Genny slide 75kg 500mm slide rails $19 and made the tray and mount for the whole thing might have cost me $45..........


With your hot water flow try taking the water saver valve out of the taps that may improve flow but the flow problem getting the gas to fire up I have heard that before just haven't heard of a remedy .
 
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Yes the trip in a van mod they did to their original Weber slide was good. So disappointed they only did a limited run of their fabricated weber slide. It looked bloody mint.
I have been trying to find out how to get that TIAV slide with no luck. Even msg Justin with no response. Bugger it was only a limited run. It did look really good.
I will look at other options now. The Kings 60L slide looks ok and at a reasonable price too.
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Bunnings have the slide rails and all you have to do is build the tray so you get what you want for a quarter of the price.... I did that with my Genny slide 75kg 500mm slide rails $19 and made the tray and mount for the whole thing might have cost me $45..........


With your hot water flow try taking the water saver valve out of the taps that may improve flow but the flow problem getting the gas to fire up I have heard that before just haven't heard of a remedy .
Thanks Drover. Not a bad idea with the Bunnings rails. I did make my own draws in my ute with similar priced rails. But the Kings price seems very attractive!
 
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The kings titan slide is a very attractive price. The next closest is the kickass model. One thing to check is the height it will add to the BBQ itself. The kickass slide adds 25mm. Can't see any such info listed for the titan though.
The existing hole in the middle is a good touch for the drip tray
 
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I just received confirmation from Kings that the tray sits 20mm from the bottom. Looks like it's the Kings Titan I think.
I might see what else I need from Kings, I have their Thumper air compressor on my wish list. What does everyone think of this product?
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I just received confirmation from Kings that the tray sits 20mm from the bottom. Looks like it's the Kings Titan I think.
I might see what else I need from Kings, I have their Thumper air compressor on my wish list. What does everyone think of this product?
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I have one of them (without the deflater). The first one I had died shortly after first use but they sent another without requiring the dud one back so it is in my shed waiting for me to bother seeing what the problem is.

Be aware, the compressor pulls around 80/90 amps on starting and runs around 65/70 amps so I had to fit a 100 amp circuit breaker and rather heavy cables to an Anderson plug. Also the gauge reads high while pumping up, it was reading 75 psi but as soon as pump switche off, it dropped back to 50 psi. Oh, and it is noisy. Other than that it is a good pump, I just pumped my van tyres yesterday and they went to 50 psi quickly before I dropped them back to 45 psi. They have sure gone up in price over two years, I only paid about $120.
 
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I have one of them (without the deflater). The first one I had died shortly after first use but they sent another without requiring the dud one back so it is in my shed waiting for me to bother seeing what the problem is.

Be aware, the compressor pulls around 80/90 amps on starting and runs around 65/70 amps so I had to fit a 100 amp circuit breaker and rather heavy cables to an Anderson plug. Also the gauge reads high while pumping up, it was reading 75 psi but as soon as pump switche off, it dropped back to 50 psi. Oh, and it is noisy. Other than that it is a good pump, I just pumped my van tyres yesterday and they went to 50 psi quickly before I dropped them back to 45 psi. They have sure gone up in price over two years, I only paid about $120.
Or do I go the smaller 160L per min Thumper pump which is cheaper and probably not as loud. It claims it can do a 35in tyre in 3min 25secs. I am assuming that the 300L unit will pump the same tyre in under 2mins.
Does the benefit of speed on the 300 L unit far outweigh the benefit of the 160L cheaper outlay, smaller unit (easier to store) and probably quieter.
 

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Or do I go the smaller 160L per min Thumper pump which is cheaper and probably not as loud. It claims it can do a 35in tyre in 3min 25secs. I am assuming that the 300L unit will pump the same tyre in under 2mins.
Does the benefit of speed on the 300 L unit far outweigh the benefit of the 160L cheaper outlay, smaller unit (easier to store) and probably quieter.
You are probably just as well off with the smaller unit if you are not in a hurry to pump up. I did not mention that my unit is very heavy, and in my advanced years :culpability: it would be better with a lighter unit to lift into the back of the Ute.
 
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Since you will rarely be inflating a fully flat tyre and just topping up a few psi I'd go the smaller unit, mine while not a thumper is around the 110/120 mark and it pushes the air in quite quickly, done a lot of top ups and the odd puncture so long as the engine s rnning to supply ..................... son in law has the big thumper and its bluddy heavy bit of kit to lug around for the normal use.