17' Series No full Annex allowed???
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G'day @Hoffy welcome! We picked up our 17.56.1 with a TEBBS annexe just before Easter. Our annexe has a number of vents in the skirt etc and came with various stickers and labels telling us that they were all required! We also shopped around and every dealer offered several enclosed annexe options. If I had been told that a "family size" van was unable to be fitted with an annexe, I would be very skeptical. Is it really possible that a very popular floor plan equipped with the most popular fridge from a major manufacturer can't have a standard accessory???? Seems strange that this hasn't popped up on this forum. Was this Jayco or the dealer?
Hi Dandy!!
We were told this by Jayco, Kakadu And today I called a dealer who we bought our last jayco through and was told the same. Due to their "duty of care" at this time they can only sell us the end walls and a privacy screen??????
I'm not sure how it would go if I was to call Kakadu and just ask for a full annex for that size van????
Kakadu did mention that they are working on permanently having more vents in the skirt and also the long wall to compromise with these people???
Hope it gets sorted or there is a way around it!!!
I think you'll find the answer here:
http://mines.industry.qld.gov.au/safety-and-health/rv-forum.html
Not sure of the state of play and there are other aspects relating to gas cylinders you'll find interesting.
http://mines.industry.qld.gov.au/safety-and-health/rv-forum.html
Not sure of the state of play and there are other aspects relating to gas cylinders you'll find interesting.
Welcome @Hoffy, what a shame your faced with this, especially with maybe your first van purchase. I hope the industry gets something sorted soon so you can get your annexe made.
@macca your right about the 186L fridge/freezer, there is a flue on the roof but there is still a small one on the annexe side and yes we ordered a annexe from Jayco with the van.....no problem.
What about this for another scenario, you have your full annexe on, fridge on gas and the 2 bunk windows on the side of my van are open into the annexe ?
Anyway, to be honest I rarely have 3 walls closed, even with long stays I still like to be open as possible!
Cheers.
@macca your right about the 186L fridge/freezer, there is a flue on the roof but there is still a small one on the annexe side and yes we ordered a annexe from Jayco with the van.....no problem.
What about this for another scenario, you have your full annexe on, fridge on gas and the 2 bunk windows on the side of my van are open into the annexe ?
Anyway, to be honest I rarely have 3 walls closed, even with long stays I still like to be open as possible!
Cheers.
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I think that pretty much covers it all. Even says that connecting your BBQ via a flexible hose to a bayonet fitting is not allowed. Wont be long before Jayco stop supplying these on the Outback.
Wont be to long before the fun police get involved as well.
Wouldn't like to be a 'fun cop' walking through a van park inspecting annexes.:brick:
*Try posting a bit more so your post isn't boring* bloody ridiculous!
Sooooo disappointed about this. Our sales rep has not even consulted with us about this issue. We stumbled upon this information at the show on the weekend. Its a 20k fine for any company who sells a full annex from the 7th May. I'm not sure we would have invested in this van had we have known. I'm about to ring our rep to demand why we were not told about this before signing!
I purchased and picked up my van in February this year, the dealer had no issue with the full annexe, in fact he was quite helpful in deciding on what annexe to go for and organising it for me!
@GENXYCAMPERS we lost our kitchen window as it was a regulation change. Found out on this forum a week before pickup. More info here then Jayco. We signed off a plan with a window then they deleted it and did not tell us or the dealer. He rang and they said no gone now..
I did a bit of industry research on this (Victorian Specific, not sure about other States). They (Governing Bodies on Gas & Plumbing) are deeming the gas fridge flue terminal the same as a flue terminal of any other gas appliance such as an outside hot water. In simple terms it must have free ventilation from 2 opposing sides. EG: No end walls on annexe would be legal. They seem to not be taking into account the fact it does not use much gas. Rules are rules sort of thing. I asked the question about my van and I wanted to get an annexe and my fridge flue terminal is on the annexe side. Answer was ,"no side walls". I then said what if I had the flue extended thru the roof and the answer was "not a problem, full annexe would be OK". I still think common sense will prevail but in the mean time everyone should maybe ask before buying their van or annexe and do their own research
I am in the process of buying an annexe so at this stage I think I will just investigate running the flue thru the roof. I have the common 150L with a microwave above it so not sure yet how feasible it is yet. We have a full van so it should be do able, don't know what you would do with a pop top. I will keep you posted with my annexe purchase.
I would presume anything existing would be OK (my opinion) they normally have those Grandfather clauses. No different than seat belts are compulsory in cars now but I can legally drive my 1962 Holden without seat belts because it was never fitted with seat belts. Does feel funny though.
Edit. Had a quick look at my van, does not look like too much trouble to run flue thru roof top. Heaps of space. I will investigate what I need from Dometic.
I am in the process of buying an annexe so at this stage I think I will just investigate running the flue thru the roof. I have the common 150L with a microwave above it so not sure yet how feasible it is yet. We have a full van so it should be do able, don't know what you would do with a pop top. I will keep you posted with my annexe purchase.
I would presume anything existing would be OK (my opinion) they normally have those Grandfather clauses. No different than seat belts are compulsory in cars now but I can legally drive my 1962 Holden without seat belts because it was never fitted with seat belts. Does feel funny though.
Edit. Had a quick look at my van, does not look like too much trouble to run flue thru roof top. Heaps of space. I will investigate what I need from Dometic.
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Sorry but this sort of thing really gets my blood boiling, they're trying to turn this place into a 'Nanny' state I'm sure.