Hhhrrrrrmmmmmm, I was on my phone lazing on the ocean shore when I started this little bit off, I was actually pertaining to a Working Bee for @DRW , at his new place of residence so he could expedite a gate, which he solely needs........first up he needs a fence to hang it from but might like a house in the paddock before the fence, mere detail though so since @Dobbie can't be trusted to tend Bar or line up a fence he could possibly still be barman as the pub is only 500 yds away, Dave can supervise the fence, @G Daddy is keeping @Dobbie occupied so all we need is some shovel movers, a couple of hammer and nail people and we are nearly there.......................Dave better line up the butcher for some steaks and book a dozen sites in that van park next door.......................we are on a roll here......................and totally off topic, has nothing to do with my Ute....