Dave and Sarah's Starcraft 22.68-1

[davemc]

Ok brought some more stuff. This trip starting to cost me
Still need to work out what I do with a Inverter use the small one we have or buy a larger one.
Everything apart from Microwave/kettle works on 12v not sure need one.
Even the CPAP runs 12v

Then the Air Compressor as well.. I have to put a Andersen in the Disco not sure I really need one now we not going offroad.
Have a small one I take anyway runs off 12v

Safety Dave TPMS.

A few Hydration packs. $15 for 2L each so one for all the kids and a bigger one for me to carry crap as well as 3L



Stand for the BBQ and front utensils holder, instead of using small table each time

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[Pauly]

Nice goodies!!!
I have always wanted tpms,(one day maybe)
My girls have the same hydra packs, one of em keeps pulling the rubber off the end of the tube, luckily I keep finding it. They are the best way to keep them drinking!

 

[davemc]

@Pauly thats what we thought and the packs being only $15 each was a bargain.. Got one for everyone.
I wanted TPMS for a while.. though big trip be worth it.

 

[davemc]

Did the pipes underneath being slightly larger and dual axles made life fun getting under.
Got my eldest to help the end where I could not fit

Did not end up going to border expo last weekend 2 kids sick..probably go to 4x4 show this weekend

Still 50-50 if we put a bullbar on Disco ARB just released one pricey $3k

 

[Crusty181]

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Did the pipes underneath being slightly larger and dual axles made life fun getting under.
Got my eldest to help the end where I could not fit

Did not end up going to border expo last weekend 2 kids sick..probably go to 4x4 show this weekend

Still 50-50 if we put a bullbar on Disco ARB just released one pricey $3k

Lot of weight and expense for not much return if your not adding a winch as well.

 

[davemc]

Yep just at the 4x4 show they had a Disco setup at OL said around $2600 ARB around $3k
Be around 75 kg and we never travel after dark so less of a risk

 

[mfexpanda]

Yep just at the 4x4 show they had a Disco setup at OL said around $2600 ARB around $3k
Be around 75 kg and we never travel after dark so less of a risk

Looks nice @davemc last time we were at OL they had alloy winch bars by ECB as well

 

[davemc]

Brought a whole set of Disco tyres from someone who upgraded to mud tyres for the price of one new. Only used for around 3k road use look pretty new, will store 4 and take one with us.

 

[Bluey]

But the bull bars look very cool and you could hit anything evan an emu or one of those navaras if they get in your way lol god forbid you never hit anything but they do look good its somwhere for your c/b annatna too expencive mount though

 

[davemc]

Chatting to someone tonight might be a smart bar version coming..
It's not just the $3k weight is a issue
We have 690kg payload
Minus 270kg TBM
Leaves 420kg for all the family and junk
If I add a 75kg bar
Leaves 345kg for 2 fat adults and 4 growing boys which is getting tight. I have to stop them growing

 

[chartrock]

I have an ECB alloy bull bar on my BT50, it weighs less than 35Kg painted in mottled black. Very happy with it.

 

[17triton]

Chatting to someone tonight might be a smart bar version coming..

Saw a new hilux at the show yesterday with a smartbar on it. Did a little vomit in my mouthuke:that thing was UGLY!

 

[davemc]

Yes have to see if its not fugly first
Only bars I know of for a 2014 onwards D4 are
Standard Bar

OL

ARB just released one

 

[Shane Norwell]

I'd never own a 4wd without a bullbar. We love traveling and sometimes that requires traveling after dark. Just makes for good frontal protection. Few years my grandfather updated his car and thought "nah we'll leave the bullbar this time, save s few bucks" first trip away in it they hit an emu. A bar went on as soon as the got the car back from the panel beaters.

For what it's worth I think arb have always made the best looking bar.

 

[davemc]

yeah @Shane Norwell I think the ARB one is good, there is a long wait just came out.
We never drive at night and do not do any 4WD stuff at the moment.
$ we pay its weight which is a problem.

345kg is not much.
at the moment the kids are small although over 110kgs with 4 of them.
Leaves 230kgs for us and junk we just over that not saying by how much .
In 2-3 years they will double that so leave us 130kgs which even if I diet like Tom Hanks in castaway we be over.
Hence something lighter even $3k I be up for it.

Also pays to think of how much crap you carry.
iPads, phones, UHF, 6 litres water, food, jokey wheel etc I allow 35kg for.

 

[WHHEMI]

Animal strikes don't just happen at night. In saying that it's your choice if you want to fit a bar or not.

 

[davemc]

Animal strikes don't just happen at night. In saying that it's your choice if you want to fit a bar or not.

I do agree with everyone and if the bar was not pushing 75kgs it would be booked in
Although we either add a bar and be over weight or not add a bar and be legal take a risk from a some animal.
If we are not legal and hit something else or end up with damage after a animal hit we are in trouble if the insurance company pushes the case.

I could also try to move crap around in the van to save 20-30kgs or more although rather not make the van less stable to be legal. 2800 ATM van loaded around 270gs is pretty balanced.

 

[davemc]

Sent a email to ECB and Smart Bars see where they are at with the bars.
Pretty sure the nudge bar fits post 2014 modesl although we have to line up the roos perfectly

 

[Drover]

Just how many cases has anyone first hand found insurance companies doing you for weight, have heard a couple with trucks but even then not many...............
Bars can do more damage sometimes, having taken out more Roo's, sheep and emu's than I care to count, it's all in the technique, take them out on the post, never on the edge or dead centre, on the edge your bar will more than likely bend in and the steer will ride the body and throw you into the table drain or other lane, in the middle you loose the big $$$ driving lights, if it's a beast stand on the picks as hard as you can, they won't move at all and a bull bar won't help......................and then we have the hopper's doing the Kamikazi into the door..........

If it's going to break the bank or the scales then just go a good light bar job, I had one on the Jeeperific and took out a couple of skip's with the uprights.........provided protection against the greater danger to front panels.........Coles car park demons.

 

[davemc]

i know @Drover the whole weight and insurance thing. Urban myth unless I get caught
Been looking for bars with less weight.

I see a lot of tugs so loaded always worries me: Bar/winch, fridge full, hi lift jack, racks with spare and fuel on top or Kayman and 2nd spare/cans on back then towing a 3 tonne van.. non utes most have 650-700kg payload.