You tube video on Ranger front axle weight implications

jazzeddie1234

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Randomly came across this very interesting (and somewhat concerning) weight analysis of a Ford Ranger. It appears the front axle is already close to spec when in stock trim and a heavy steel bullbar - the most common type - pushes it over the limit... Now I'm wondering about my dmax with a bull bar and winch that I used to cart around.

 

Drover

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The problem has been around for years and involves quite a few vehicles really, especially the steel bull bar and winch additions, everyone is fixated on GVM/GCM/ATM and forget about axle loadings or they are never mentioned, Tare is a myth.............................. As Ive said you can be good with GVM/GCM but blow it on axle loadings ........

Son in law put his new Ranger on the scales after adding a bull bar, tray and box on back, sent me the print out and it went in last friday for new suspension from ARB which gave him a GVM upgrade as with 2 bums on seats and a hand bag bugga all left for gear or kids, be much the same for most vehicles on the road, many think 600 or 800 kg loading is plenty but it isn't really as the additions eat it away and minus a tow ball weight, real not whats on the plate, there's not much left for bums or gear ....... it also lowers the tow capacity and why most 3.5t tow cap vehicles can't.................... have to watch that vid a couple of times as they yabber on a bit nd going by the comments there are some idiots around ........................ The Jeep can't be loaded up with heaps of gear but I can adjust the TBW with raising the hitch slightly to as he said on the vid to load the van axles equally, something my Knee suspension really has to be watched.
 
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Hitting the road

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It's really just common sense - vehicle loading, but, the majority of people just have no idea, or just do not care. Plenty of people start out with a van of some sort, then after a couple of years "upgrade" their van to a newer van with more bling and extras...and weight...but don't do anything about the old tug.

As with Drover, I am all over the weights of my Jeep and van. Though being the van is not the block of flats type, a Jayco Journey Outback poptop, van weight is quite ok, though could do with an extra 100kg of payload in reality.
But...the steel ARB Bar, spotlights, and 10,000lb Smittybilt winch on the Jeep add around 115kg 450 millimeters in front of the front axle. Then the full length Chief Roof Rack is quite heavy, likely around 35kg, plus the awning. I took all the bash plates off as there was easily another 40kg in them as well. The drawers in the back full of spares and tools adds another 35kg over the rear axle as well. It's ok, but only just with 2 bods on board and a full tank of diesel. When I add all the touring stuff such as the full fridge and drinkies, I am over weight. Van is ok, until I add the gen set to the front boot then I have a towball weight problem adding too much to the rear axle. I then need to adjust how much water I carry in the van tanks as full they add 160kg.
It is always a juggling act...I do have a small set of portable scales I use to check axle weights which are reasonably accurate which assists...