Electrical ESC in 12 pin socket

[Doc]

Dobbie,

Since you say I offended you, I apologise. Again.

If you are able to bring yourself to accepting my apology (which I assure you is sincere) and getting over it, then I look forward to many more positive interactions with you.

Kind regards,

 

[Dobbie]

Thanks.

Let's move on. I'm far too busy for this and assume you are as well.

I also look forward to more positive interaction with you!

 

[Doc]

NOOOOOO! I want to keep banging on incessantly!

Cheers mate, I just wanted to clear the air.

Edit: Oh, and effing Jayco! Why did they have to use a 12 pin anyway? Why couldn't they have just used 7 plus Anderson in the first place!!!! I blame it all on them!

 

[bigcol]

Edit: Oh, and effing Jayco! Why did they have to use a 12 pin anyway? Why couldn't they have just used 7 plus Anderson in the first place!!!! I blame it all on them!

WHY.............

why indeed,

but then, with a 7 pin, you would need to either
a) put in Anderson (or similar) for the Fridge / van power
or
b) put in Anderson (or similar) for the ESC

and this would then become very much too hard for some
like most things, everything needs to be "dumbed" down to the lowest common denominator

you need 8 (or 9 in some instances) pins...............
easiest way is to use the "new" style pin from good 'Ol USofA - 12 pins

tis really only those who use their Vans in "non" road scenarios that know that it would be better with either a switch on the dash (to turn it on/off) or having an Anderson (or similar) - the rest of the herd wont even think about it

I must also stress that I do not have ESC on my Van - so it matters diddly squat to me..................

 

[Tuppy]

Hi. Urgent question.

Need to confirm that the Jayco 12 pin plug / socket uses pin 10 for ESC.

We had our car wired for the 12 pin as per Jayco diagram but sold the van along with the wiring diagram, ESC manual and my printed details have been lost.

Just delivered car to auto electrician who will change the 12 pin to a 7 and two Anderson plugs, one of which is dedicated to ESC....but I can't remember, or find the details for which pin was used for ESC.

Did a search here, no go. Found the latest ESC manual and it specifies pin 10.

Any one with a better memory than me....or more accurate info. (Mine was wired in 2014.)

I know this doesn't answef your question, but for interest...when my 12 pin was wired up, the fridge didn't work on 12v. I got the caravan sparky back out to have a gander, and gave him Nova's 12 pin diagram. It turns out the new diagram was effective for Nova fans FROM July 2015. The sparky had a handful of diagrams because ea h manufacturer was different! Wouldn't you think it would be a standard wiring pattern, as with a seven pin plug?

 

[Dobbie]

No it wasn't!

Hence my dilemma. The Jayco diagram they published then, and currently publish, showed everything except the ESC. Our dealer had emailed it to me and I printed it for the auto electrician when he fitted the 12pin....in 2014.

Alco's online annual wasn't helpful at all. They just referred to pin 10 for the earth and discussed, in general terms, that it could be wired for 12 or 7 with Anderson.
I searched high and low but now know it was pin 2. Thankfully, someone knew.

The auto electrician had some info from Alco as well which caused him to be very specific about current requirements.

The problem was I needed an answer very quickly as the car was in being wired and we managed just in time.

All done now but I need to find a simple effective way to make a cover for the two new Andersons on my back bumper. Think I've worked it out without resorting to pulling the new installation off and fitting waterproof covers. They're too exposed as they are and I forgot to ask for waterproof ones.

It was not a good day, all in all. I hope nobody else has this problem and I know I never will.

 

[dagree]

I use these @Dobbie


The lugs/pins just clip/slide out..... Feed the main body cover over the cables and push them back in (The anderson's are marked +/- so even I can't get it wrong lol)

Or maybe you could go for these....

Doesn't help with waterproofing the main plug but will help with blocking the open ends?

 

[bigcol]

yeppers, I have similar on mine -



I also brought (but cannot find so never fitted) these covers from here ABR Sidewinder

 

[Dobbie]

Yep.

Got those but I've now got a bad case of "tight walletitis" as well as trying to avoid yet another trip to the auto electrician.

The issue is that I want to avoid removing them and they've been fitted one on top of the other so there's no space to put two of either of the covers on them. I've got the ones with the loops on all my solar gear.

I even tried to cut two of them to make one bigger one but I don't think it'll stay on.

Anyway...two options.

One...remove and fit the waterproof ones with spring cover. They work well (had them on the Jayco) but the cable length will be a bit tight.

Second ...make up a cover by using two spare Andersons without the metal bits and bog up the open ends to keep water and dust out and add a handle so it comes off easily. I realised yesterday that red Andersons are different from the grey ones....makes sense but I hadn't looked at them closely before. The two together should fit on easily on and do the job...I hope.

It's amazing how much time I can spend on simple jobs!

 

[bigcol]

It's amazing how much time I can spend on simple jobs!

sounds like my simple jobs..............