ok sorry about photo guys hehe what I was trying to say is that I went to binning when I first got my van as I was keen to take out so I got car carpet big mistake it cost me $100 and everything stuck to it so I went to the carpet place asked for of cuts I could pick my length colour and width and it cost me a whole $50 nice on my feet feels great didn't get rubber back after reading problems with it on this site I have 4 kids grass dirt not a problem wouldn't like to see it camping in muddy areas but it all grassy for now so just giving ideas to the new van owners and really if it gets real muddy after a couple of years at $50 can replace or pull out and hose down photos to come hehehehe I got a laugh anyway