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@mfexpanda, you will have to be patient to get into covid free Queensland. Our Anna is going to keep all you covid laden Mexicans south of the border for a while yet as confirmed by the result of the election on Saturday by many people. You are doing well down there, so maybe after Christmas???
I’ll just go to the NT if QLD is shut.
 

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@mfexpanda I would like it to open in about a week if you could arange it then I can duck over the River to Nhill to see how my favourite Avro Anson build has come along since last visit.
 
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I’ll just go to the NT if QLD is shut.

I don't think Queensland will be your problem @mfexpanda . The way things are going, I believe the Queensland border will be open to approved interstate visitors (tested free of Covid) long before your man Dan lets you out of Victoria and NSW is prepared to have you in their midst.
But another day of non transmissible Covid cases has passed for not only Victoria, but Australia. Your sacrifices have enabled this to happen, and when you look at the UK going into lock down for 4 weeks and the rapid spread (second wave?) of the virus through Europe again, not to mention the idiots in USA with a total of 100,000 new cases detected DAILY in 47 of the various states, Victoria can be justly proud of what it has achieved despite the hardships. We still want you and your big spending Victorian people in Queensland, but you have to wait until the "Doctor" says you are well enough to travel and not pass the virus on to others. Hang in there!!! Cheers.
 

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Not quite @rags. There is ALWAYS a risk and one should be careful. The latest ruling states that people from NSW country areas can enter Queensland without quarantine if they can prove that they have NOT been in a "hot spot" for the previous period of 14 or more days. And can travel by air to Sydney and then on to Brisbane without quarantine provided they do not stop in Sydney or leave the terminal! And provided they have the appropriate pass stating where they have been. And we all know how many people are less than truthful, don't we?? If you believe that there is "no risk", then perhaps you can have them all at your place for the duration! I for one would not want to be associated with anyone who came from a declared "hot spot" or had been mixing with others there. Tread your own path!
Boots, my statesman is absolutely correct and accurate. I not debating the virtues of where I should meet my family. I’m merely pointing out the ridiculous nature of the restrictions that have most recently been annouced, using a scenario that accurately applies under current requirements and one that would typically occur for our families Xmas gathering. You will be pleased that I won’t in fact going to Sydney any time soon, with Xmas being spent at our place on the coast this year due to other family reasons.

I can assure you I have a thorough understanding of the border restriction requirements, having been for the last while now actively assessing requests for border exemptions associated with building and construction work.
Since COVID has been front of mind I have regularly been presenting online forums to industry on COVID restrictions to the construction industry.

I can assure you I can now drive to the Hawkesbury City Council an area considered the 38th largest by population in NSW. (that borders and extends from the LGA’s of Penrith, Blacktown,The Hilis and Hornsby LGAs with Housing adjoining the suburbs separated by roads like , you guessed it, Boundary Rd) I can then stay at my sisters place, have visitation from my siblings who can mingle with the great unwashed of Sydney before leaving their residence in declare hotspots of Sydney to join us. I can then return to Brisbane and other than filling out a declaration, return without quarantine. I cold accurately declare that I didn’t enter a hot spot despite being directly adjacent. While in the Hawkesbury LGA I could visit a local supermarket, get petrol, and go to the pub, club, church etc. Yet the people I would encounter could go to the neighbouring LGAs for work and pleasure.

If the border quiz asked me if I associated with anyone from a hot spot , I could only answer yes, BUT that is not a question or determination so I’m free.

it all doesn’t make sense in a similar manner to the requirement that a tradesman can come from Evans Head and go anywhere in Qld to fix a tap but another from Grafton can’t do the same.
 

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Boots, my statesman is absolutely correct and accurate. I not debating the virtues of where I should meet my family. I’m merely pointing out the ridiculous nature of the restrictions that have most recently been annouced, using a scenario that accurately applies under current requirements and one that would typically occur for our families Xmas gathering. You will be pleased that I won’t in fact going to Sydney any time soon, with Xmas being spent at our place on the coast this year due to other family reasons.

I can assure you I have a thorough understanding of the border restriction requirements, having been for the last while now actively assessing requests for border exemptions associated with building and construction work.
Since COVID has been front of mind I have regularly been presenting online forums to industry on COVID restrictions to the construction industry.

I can assure you I can now drive to the Hawkesbury City Council an area considered the 38th largest by population in NSW. (that borders and extends from the LGA’s of Penrith, Blacktown,The Hilis and Hornsby LGAs with Housing adjoining the suburbs separated by roads like , you guessed it, Boundary Rd) I can then stay at my sisters place, have visitation from my siblings who can mingle with the great unwashed of Sydney before leaving their residence in declare hotspots of Sydney to join us. I can then return to Brisbane and other than filling out a declaration, return without quarantine. I cold accurately declare that I didn’t enter a hot spot despite being directly adjacent. While in the Hawkesbury LGA I could visit a local supermarket, get petrol, and go to the pub, club, church etc. Yet the people I would encounter could go to the neighbouring LGAs for work and pleasure.

If the border quiz asked me if I associated with anyone from a hot spot , I could only answer yes, BUT that is not a question or determination so I’m free.

it all doesn’t make sense in a similar manner to the requirement that a tradesman can come from Evans Head and go anywhere in Qld to fix a tap but another from Grafton can’t do the same.
Nothing personal at all @rags , but a lot of people are not as responsible as you appear to be. I don't disagree with anything you said as you obviously have a full understanding of the ramifications of what is trying to be done to limit the spread of this virus to new areas where Covid is virtually non-existent. Where ever you draw a line, there will always be someone disadvantaged or just on the wrong side of the declared boundary. It has to be drawn somewhere and of course there will be anomalies and you have brought up a few. It can even be as simple as one side of the street being in a different Local Government area than the other side with different restrictions. I too can list a lot of grey areas that could be used to get around some rulings and there are plenty of examples of "the wrong people" trying to transgress these limitations for their own personal reasons ( I am ok and b#%^@* everyone else!!). Unfortunately their misdemeanor can jeopardize the lives of others who are innocent of such action, especially the elderly or infirm. And that is what happened in Victoria until very tough legislation was implemented. It only takes one to undo all the good work and trying conditions others have had to experience to gain some sort of normality. Look what Victoria had to go through to get the pandemic under control and they appear to have been successful but at a cost to personal freedom, not to mention loss of employment for some. As you know, we in Queensland have been most fortunate in not having any major outbreaks and as a result, we have not had lock downs and have been free to move around within our State borders. Hard to maintain and hurtful for some, but a Godsend to others. You can please most of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but it is impossible to please all the people all of the time. Thanks for putting up with my sermon and take care. We are all in this together!
 
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The QLD Border Restrictions are a lot of BS and has been since OCT 1st, I'm in the middle of NSW, my Border pass was invalid soon as I drove into Manilla yet in the previous week I was around folk from Tamworth, Newcastle and Wollongong, yet I could drive back home, once going past Barraba I needed to spend 2 weeks in limbo but that ended early this morning, I just have to get another Pass and I'm as good as gold..... While for the past month family reunions at parks in the Twilight Zone have been happening with QLDers and their NSW families from No Mans Land, the thing I have found is folk are getting their border info from social media not from the Government web sites so they don't know what they can do, met heaps of people who are amazed at a QLDer down this way................Have no problem with the internal restrictions...
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Its a lot of BS and has been for at least a month, I'm in the middle of NSW, my Border pass was invalid soon as I drove into Manilla yet in the previous week I was around folk from Tamworth, Newcastle and Wollongong, yet I could drive back home, once going past Barraba I needed to spend 2 weeks in limbo but that ended early this morning, I just have to get another Pass and I'm as good as gold..... While for the past month family reunions at parks in the Twilight Zone have been happening with QLDers and their NSW families from No Mans Land, the thing I have found is folk are getting their border info from social media not from the Government web sites so they don't know what they can do, met heaps of people who are amazed at a QLDer down this way................

Can't agree with you on your first line @Drover . Try telling that to all those who have lost loved ones or have been permanently affected after contracting Corvid - 19 and will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Or all those businesses that have had to lock down because of outbreaks in their area. Victoria really suffered with nearly 800 deaths, and thousands infected, and it nearly got away in NSW earlier on. Sure, there are anomalies with boundaries and people moving around, but generally, most are abiding by restrictions as they know it, albeit sometimes misled by social media as you said. To say that any restrictions on boundaries are BS (even as you said they are sometimes full of holes!) , is to agree with those idiots in Melbourne and other places, that this whole "Covid thing"is a hoax and a Government plot to keep people under their control!
 

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Can't agree with you on your first line @Drover . Try telling that to all those who have lost loved ones or have been permanently affected after contracting Corvid - 19 and will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Or all those businesses that have had to lock down because of outbreaks in their area. Victoria really suffered with nearly 800 deaths, and thousands infected, and it nearly got away in NSW earlier on. Sure, there are anomalies with boundaries and people moving around, but generally, most are abiding by restrictions as they know it, albeit sometimes misled by social media as you said. To say that any restrictions on boundaries are BS (even as you said they are sometimes full of holes!) , is to agree with those idiots in Melbourne and other places, that this whole "Covid thing"is a hoax and a Government plot to keep people under their control!
The first line is in regards to the QLD restrictions since OCT 1st, I will rework the sentence so there is no mistake, then you will see the sense in what I wrote...You certainly read more intomy statement than I could even see

As for the other states thats for others to comment on.....
 
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Melbourne (or anywhere sth of Sydney) to QLD (or anywhere nth of Sydney) via the M7 at Casula in the sth to the M1 at Wahroonga in the nth via the M7, M2 and the new Nth Connex tunnel. Tolls ONE WAY for any B Double .... including any van like mine that they regard as a B Double .... sign me up, for that one

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( I am ok and b#%^@* everyone else!!). Unfortunately their misdemeanor can jeopardize the lives of others who are innocent of such action, especially the elderly or infirm. And that is what happened in Victoria
If you referring to the rank and file, we certainly plenty of deniers and conspiracy theorists down here, but it wasn'tt any of them that caused our teams own goal ....

If by reference with "I am ok and b#%^@* everyone else!!). Unfortunately their misdemeanor can jeopardize the lives of others who are innocent of such action, especially the elderly or infirm" your referring to Dan and his cohorts, I can assure you they don't remember a single thing about anything youre talking about
 
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That "Im OK" statement also applies to antivaxxers and other deadheads.........


So be a lot of caravanners taking the Crusty route thru Sydney or wishing they did......my toll tag would have to hit 3 recharges for one run....bugga that.

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Well 2nd place is okay....

We are camped in a huge grass area. Heaps of room so some drop kick in a motorhome parks about 2 mts away, what is it with these stupid motorhome people, happens a lot.....hope its cold tonight so I can fire up the heater....they were circling me the other week so I plugged the 240 lead in and slid the genny out on its slide, no intention of using it, they decided not to stop and went further down the paddock..morons. Nearly as bad a whiz bangers.
 

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That "Im OK" statement also applies to antivaxxers and other deadheads.........


So be a lot of caravanners taking the Crusty route thru Sydney or wishing they did......my toll tag would have to hit 3 recharges for one run....bugga that.

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12.5mtrs long is the truck trigger point for tolling which we would all exceed towing a caravan, the vertical trigger is 2.8mtrs which is good for poptops but not so good for full more oof road vans particularly with independent suspension .... so that easily stiffs me, I'm well over 2.8mtrs