Hi Jim,Mark - another question please, how did/do you measure the return fuel temp? Is there a sensor that can be logged via the OBD2 port?
Cheers
Jim
Hi Jim,
Fuel temp can be read through OBD2 port if you have the correct Scan tool, usually high end workshops and dealers have them to analyse and reset fault codes, unfortunately high fuel temp doesn’t through a fault code on the Ranger.
The normal fuel temperature range is 30-40 degrees, the highest temp recorded for my Ranger during testing was 85 degrees.
If you search the internet and talk to diesel experts, as my mechanic did, you’ll find a number of causes for fuel temp.
1. Fuel Lines at fuel filter the wrong way around (usually after a fuel filter change)
2. Faulty fuel filter assembly
3. High pressure fuel pump with a sticky piston.
The last being the most expensive of the above repairs.
It wasn’t until we’d exhausted all of the above options leaving only fuel lines and fuel tank that the mechanic found the damaged fuel return line near the fuel cooler at the rear of the fuel tank.
My advise to you is to take your Ranger back to the people who fitted your fuel tank to have them check for any kinked fuel lines that may have occurred during installation.
Cheers and good luck
PS Please let me know how you go?
That’s fantastic news Jim! I’m pleased that someone benefited from the knowledge I gained from my bad experience.Mark, I followed your advice and checked the fuel temp in the return fuel line and it went as high as 88 degrees coinciding with the loss of power & speed. Further investigation found that the return fuel line was kinked just as in your case. This has now been fixed, however I have not had the vehicle out under load yet to confirm 100% that it was the cause. I have to do a trip out early August so I'll report back either way.
Thanks again for posting your experience.
Cheers
Jim
That’s fantastic news Jim! I’m pleased that someone benefited from the knowledge I gained from my bad experience.
The tank I had fitted causing all my problems was an ARB Frontier tank. In the interest of others being aware of possible problems to be mindful of. Can you share what make of tank you had fitted and where it was fitted?
Cheers
Mark
Interesting as I am battling the same issue when towing the van. High temps, going up long hill climbs, all power drops. Might have to get the fuel lines double checked to make sure they are a) correctly fitted and b) no kinks, etc.Giday folk, love the info on the px ranger loss of power particularly while towing. I too have experienced the the frustration while towing my boat or camper. Never had a problem in five years of owning the truck until late last year. Serviced engine including fuel filter. 3.2lt 6 speed manual. 2013 with 90k on the clock. Problem would occur mainly in afternoon with high ambient temperatures. No engine light, no logged codes. Struggle to accelerate past 40kph particularly from start or during a climb. Found problem to have been incorrectly fitted fuel lines at the filter. Sorted them out and bresto problem gone. Can't blame anyone but myself, complacency, a mans greatest threat.
https://www.saeb.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=58
As per this site the fuel temp can be read with an Ultraguage using these parameters..:
FUEL TEMPERATURE
TDATA: 07E02205220000
TCTRL: 93 RCTRL: 31
RPOS: 2008 MTCH: 620522
X: 0001 /: 0001 +: FFD8
OUT: 00 AVE: 00
L/R: 30
Giday Macca, sorry to hear you too are having problems with your tug. For your info if you look from the front of your vehicle and view your fuel filter, the order of the connections from the centre of the vehicle should be blue at the top left with a blue directly below it. The top right should be red with red directly below it. It has been known for the top two to be fitted incorrectly by the experts. For your information diesel fuel losses its performance potential the hotter the fuel gets. That is why I won't allow the fuel level in the tank to drop below quarter full. Also another item to look at is the fuel cooler which was fitted to Mk1 Rangers, it has been emitted on mk 2 & 3 Rangers. If one is fitted ensure that it is clean, the cooler resembles a smart radiator which is made of alloy. Give it a wash with water. It is located just above the rear axle on the left side.Interesting as I am battling the same issue when towing the van. High temps, going up long hill climbs, all power drops. Might have to get the fuel lines double checked to make sure they are a) correctly fitted and b) no kinks, etc.
Not being mechanical (so not knowing what to look for), this is a job for the little brother....
Thanks - I'll have a look at the hoses later today - that seems easy enough to check.Giday Macca, sorry to hear you too are having problems with your tug. For your info if you look from the front of your vehicle and view your fuel filter, the order of the connections from the centre of the vehicle should be blue at the top left with a blue directly below it. The top right should be red with red directly below it. It has been known for the top two to be fitted incorrectly by the experts. For your information diesel fuel losses its performance potential the hotter the fuel gets. That is why I won't allow the fuel level in the tank to drop below quarter full. Also another item to look at is the fuel cooler which was fitted to Mk1 Rangers, it has been emitted on mk 2 & 3 Rangers. If one is fitted ensure that it is clean, the cooler resembles a smart radiator which is made of alloy. Give it a wash with water. It is located just above the rear axle on the left side.
Another point of interest is that on heavy earth moving machinery, the fuel tank is made of steel. With ambient air flowing around the tank, this help the heat transfer from the warm fuel. Modern vehicles are fitted with plastic tanks, a good insulator if you ask me. Sorry for yapping on. Anyway hope all goes well with your tugregards Ranger13.
Hi Dean, I have a 2013 Ranger 3.2l diesel, I too was paranoid re the heating cooling on the ranger, and prior to a big trip, 20,000Klms, i had the auto box gone over and replaced the torque converter with a heavy duty one,I have a 2013 PX Ranger with exactly the same symptoms, seems to only occur when the ambient is above 30 degrees. The Ford dealership here have reprogrammed a parameter to the fuel pump, replaced the transmission module on the computer, replaced the sensor to the inter-cooler and also the fuel sensor, asked me to remove the winch, which they were adamant was the issue as it reduced the air flow to the inter-cooler, which I did but had no effect. Now they believe it's the long ranger fuel tank restricting air flow to the fuel cooler and they've asked me to put the standard tank back on to prove it (which of course I no longer have). ARB are trying to find one for me.
The problem for me is getting days hot enough to test any changes made as I live in ACT and this year summer hasn't been particularly hot. As a result, the issue has been intermittently occurring since November, so almost 3 months now.
Hi guys Tristan from On Wheels Mobile Mechanics in Young nsw I've just had the same problem with a customer's car exactly the same symptoms fuel reaching temps of 85+ no codes no lights on dash .... limp mode like status not revving over 2000rpm ....fault fuel hoses to filter on wrong .... changed them around temp dropped from 80 to 45 instantly .... gonna do another road test but 99% sure this is the problem for most people in this situationHere's hoping that you get it sorted.
By the way, did you read my posting (#14) about the possible alternative that if you had a fuel filter change that someone may have put the hoses back on wrong and you therefore end up with hot fuel being recirculated. On another Forum I posted this to that was a response I got from somebody. Curious that 2 weeks prior to my problem surfacing that was a part of the Ford Service that I had done.
Hi Tristan is there any chance you can post a pick of the proper fuel set up , mine look like they have been put back on correctly but you never know, when I pour cold water over fuel pump area it fixes problem sraight away until temperature rises again , then back to no power, I can drive it all winter without a problem.Hi guys Tristan from On Wheels Mobile Mechanics in Young nsw I've just had the same problem with a customer's car exactly the same symptoms fuel reaching temps of 85+ no codes no lights on dash .... limp mode like status not revving over 2000rpm ....fault fuel hoses to filter on wrong .... changed them around temp dropped from 80 to 45 instantly .... gonna do another road test but 99% sure this is the problem for most people in this situation
what picture do you want? I have a 3.2 2013 PX ranger and it runs fine. But my picture may not help as I have an upgraded intercooler, pre-filter for fuel and catch can. Also getting a trans cooler fitted tomorrow (I have an issue when I drive more than about 6hrs with the van - so it's an extreme edge case but as we are planning a lap of Aus I'm happy to do anything to make the car more reliable.Hi Tristan is there any chance you can post a pick of the proper fuel set up , mine look like they have been put back on correctly but you never know, when I pour cold water over fuel pump area it fixes problem sraight away until temperature rises again , then back to no power, I can drive it all winter without a problem.
Cheers Freemo
Hey mate, how’d you go fix it would love to know as my utes doing this now and would love a handmeanderthals, I don’t know if your still about, but I have a 2013 3.2 and have exactly the same problem, I have even poured cold water over the fuel pump area and it fixes the problem every time until the motor gets hot again, are you saying that the sensor was the problem or the fuel pump ??
cheers Freemo
Thankyou very much .Hi Jim,
Fuel temp can be read through OBD2 port if you have the correct Scan tool, usually high end workshops and dealers have them to analyse and reset fault codes, unfortunately high fuel temp doesn’t through a fault code on the Ranger.
The normal fuel temperature range is 30-40 degrees, the highest temp recorded for my Ranger during testing was 85 degrees.
If you search the internet and talk to diesel experts, as my mechanic did, you’ll find a number of causes for fuel temp.
1. Fuel Lines at fuel filter the wrong way around (usually after a fuel filter change)
2. Faulty fuel filter assembly
3. High pressure fuel pump with a sticky piston.
The last being the most expensive of the above repairs.
It wasn’t until we’d exhausted all of the above options leaving only fuel lines and fuel tank that the mechanic found the damaged fuel return line near the fuel cooler at the rear of the fuel tank.
My advise to you is to take your Ranger back to the people who fitted your fuel tank to have them check for any kinked fuel lines that may have occurred during installation.
Cheers and good luck
PS Please let me know how you go?