Like a fire alarm, build up of CO2 alarm goes off. Probably not the solution to the problem but if you are concerned about using gas appliances in your van it can't hurt.
17' Series No full Annex allowed???
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The common sense approach from the authorities would be for annexes on the fridge side (and fridge only not other appliances) because they use less than one mJ of gas per hr (non technical term "stuff all") would be to have extra vents in the annexe and carbon monoxide and LPG detectors fitted. How hard would that be!
Im sure we will all end up with Black and yellow warnings signs on all vans that read area must be well ventilated when using fridge on LPG.
Is that 15l difference between Waeco and normal 150l fridge? 15l difference is negligible.
Can make that up with a small 20l car fridge, we do, that Way we have cold drinks in the car when travelling long distances and spare space for cold sensitive vegs like cucumbers, tomatoes, lettuce which we keep in the small portable fridge (12v / 240V that plugs into the car and alternatively we bring it into the van and plug into 12v or 240v)
Do others do this?
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Yes, we do the same.
I then have the small fridge in the annex with my drinks etc so I dont have to go inside to get em. We also put the lunch stuff (ham, cheese, lettuce) in it so we can make lunches etc outside and dont need to run in and out.
Everyone is a winner!!!
Hi @Marv_mart ,
From what we have learnt from our research is that you cannot purchase a new annex if you still have the gas hooked up to your fridge. You need to have at least two sides opened at all times therefore you cant have a full annex at any time
From what we have learnt from our research is that you cannot purchase a new annex if you still have the gas hooked up to your fridge. You need to have at least two sides opened at all times therefore you cant have a full annex at any time
Hi everyone, thought I would give you all an update as to how we solved this problem in case there are others out there that would like to purchase this van and also have a full annexe.
As we wanted to keep the size fridge that comes with the van, we have asked Jayco to disconnect the gas to the fridge and supply us with a certificate from the plumber to say this has been done.
I have been in contact with two suppliers of annexes and they have both said that they would supply me with a full annexe with that certificate.
We have asked Jayco to make sure this wiring/plugs etc is easily accessible in case we would like to have it reconnected for what ever purpose down the track.............kind of defeats the purpose in the first place if we can easily get it reconnected once we have the van??? In saying that, we do most of our travels staying in parks so probably won't need to reconnect it at this stage.
Cheers
As we wanted to keep the size fridge that comes with the van, we have asked Jayco to disconnect the gas to the fridge and supply us with a certificate from the plumber to say this has been done.
I have been in contact with two suppliers of annexes and they have both said that they would supply me with a full annexe with that certificate.
We have asked Jayco to make sure this wiring/plugs etc is easily accessible in case we would like to have it reconnected for what ever purpose down the track.............kind of defeats the purpose in the first place if we can easily get it reconnected once we have the van??? In saying that, we do most of our travels staying in parks so probably won't need to reconnect it at this stage.
Cheers
I know it's crazy really especially if other states are doing it.
So because they won't do it has cost us extra to change the fridge over.
At the end of the day we wanted an Expanda and we wanted an annexe so it was the only option.
We got a full annex with our van direct from Jayco last year. Gas connected and no mention of the problem discussed in this thread.
We where told when we bought our 17.56.2ob that the laws has been around for years but no one policed it , and then two young kiddies died in WA from the fumes and thats why there on to it now
I am not aware of the WA story you mentioned, but here in Victoria 2 Children died as the results of Carbon Monoxide poisoning from a faulty gas heater in a normal house a few years back.
http://www.chaseandtyler.org.au/
Correct, they are not new rules, just being more technically enforced.
http://www.chaseandtyler.org.au/
Correct, they are not new rules, just being more technically enforced.
At the end of the day @JOBSWAN you got your van and that's all that counts!! We also looked at changing the fridge to the waeco 136litre before the option of disconnection came up. It is important for us to have an annexe also so whatever was needed to achieve this, we would of done.
Still happy campers!!!
Down to approx 5 weeks until we receive our new van!! Happy days
Still happy campers!!!
Down to approx 5 weeks until we receive our new van!! Happy days
This is a compliant annex. Once fully setup the long wall is unzipped and raised to make a verandah, allowing full ventilation.
It is not a full annex as such, but three independent walls that can be setup in any configuration.
How the annex is setup is my responsibility and for the manufacture to comply with the regulations a manual was supplied showing how the annex must be setup. If I don't fully open the long wall when setup then it's back on me.
It is not a full annex as such, but three independent walls that can be setup in any configuration.
How the annex is setup is my responsibility and for the manufacture to comply with the regulations a manual was supplied showing how the annex must be setup. If I don't fully open the long wall when setup then it's back on me.
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They won't even install if it is an older van with the fridge flue on the annex side there is only ways around it if it is a full height caravan and that's to move the flue on pop tops and campers there is no option for an annex if it isnt already there
t true in wa it all goes back to the yard and the company person that installed it
They won't even install if it is an older van with the fridge flue on the annex side there is only ways around it if it is a full height caravan and that's to move the flue on pop tops and campers there is no option for an annex if it isnt already there
