Wheel alignment & weighbridge

Bellbirdweb

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So had an interesting afternoon today.

After our recent 4200km trip around Queensland, I noticed the front left tyre scrubbing badly, and decided to take it for a wheel alignment.

I contacted my local tyre guy and asked if they did alignments on caravans, just encase I could do something locally. He actually laughed, and said, no I don't think anyone does those........hmmm, might need to find a new tyre guy.

Anyhow, booked into Pro-Axle truck aligning at Narellan, and took it out there.

The toe in on the front left was 20mm out, and one the right was 9mm out, no wonder I was getting tyre wear !!

Cost me $275.00, but hopefully will result in the tyres lasting much longer and with that much out, it may even result in better fuel economy (combine with pumping up the tyres a bit more per the tyre pressure thread).

On the way, I also decided to put the car and van over a weighbridge, as I have been wanting to see the real world weights for a while now.

So according to my compliance plate my ATM is 3091 - actual weight 3200, GTM is supposed to be 2920, actual 2960 and the GCM of the cruiser is 6680 and actual is 6400 (at least 1 of them was under, but add in a couple of bodies and we would be nearly there). Max ball loading is plated as 211kg, 244 actual

Both water tanks were at 3/4 full, so another 40 odd kg's when they are full.

Its a shame Jayco don't do the real world weights, because now I'm in a position of being over weight, when with some work at the manufacture end with the stroke of a pen I wouldn't be.

Not a real lot I can do about it, as we really don't have anything in the van that we would consider unnecessary.
 

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bugger about the wheel alignment keep hearing people out of align with the new Jtech on a few forums.
Our old 17.58 seemed ok. new one has axles as touring and seems fine as well and we did 10k just recently so I expect to see it.

If we get out early tomorrow want to take ours to the local tips weigh bridge.
Its free if you do not want a ticket. I took the Disco the other day by itself with all the 4 monster kids. I am very close with people since the bullbar on GVM. Might need to loose my gut faster then the kids grow :)
GCM we should be fine I have 3500 to play with for the van on top of GVM and I cannot see the touring being more then 2800~ I might cry tomorrow.
 
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Bellbirdweb

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bugger about the wheel alignment keep hearing people out of align with the new Jtech on a few forums.
Our old 17.58 seemed ok. new one has axles as touring and seems fine as well and we did 10k just recently so I expect to see it.

If we get out early tomorrow want to take ours to the local tips weigh bridge.
Its free if you do not want a ticket. I took the Disco the other day by itself with all the 4 monster kids. I am very close with people since the bullbar on GVM. Might need to loose my gut faster then the kids grow :)
GCM we should be fine I have 3500 to play with for the van on top of GVM and I cannot see the touring being more then 2800~ I might cry tomorrow.

I was actually quite happy with the GVM on the cruiser given I have the bull bar, dual batteries, Kamar rear bar with dual spares, roof rack, full fuel tanks, full 60 litre water tank, and even the genny, tools and engel in the back.

I am however now looking at a Dodge RAM LOL
 
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bigcol

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thats good new

and bad news.............

your right about them using "generic" weights on their plates
in theory they are supposed to be weighing each van as it rolls off the line - then whatever extras the dealer fits are what makes it wrong

however, I think they only weigh 1 in 100
I would love to be proven wrong, but I think I am closer than Jayco's weights
 
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a few years back doing the tour they showed us each van being individually (ATM only) weighed - there were three or four bays next to each other, the tractor hauled them in, weighed and ticket issued.
I got a ticket in my handover pack when I got the van, although the towball stated was merely 10% of ATM....
 
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a few years back doing the tour they showed us each van being individually (ATM only) weighed - there were three or four bays next to each other, the tractor hauled them in, weighed and ticket issued.
I got a ticket in my handover pack when I got the van, although the towball stated was merely 10% of ATM....

I think thats where Jayco maybe drop the ball
when people add the extras - if they are factory fitted - they are part of the GVM & Tare of the Van
its when the dealers fit the rest of the extras -
sometimes Solar
sometimes extra water tanks
etc
thats where it gets sticky
 
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They do good work at Pro-axle Narrellan that's the only place I take my 4b especially as it needs 4 wheel alignments, looking at taking the van in as well soon, the best part it is just around the corner from work, so just drop it of in the morning and all done buy knock off.
As for weights! hhhhhmmm, dropped the beast on the bridge last trip, came in under the actual ATM but 80kg more than I'd hoped so that stupid ball weight issue of the Pajero raises it's ugly head, though came in well under GCM.
 
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Well we just stopped at the weigh bridge as open when we went past
GCM we are under have 750kg to go which is good.
Van is loaded with annex and bikes and pretty close to ATM and car pretty close as well.
Did not take off the van to do seperate although car and van where on seperate ones so have to do tbm myself.
Might have to look to move things around to bring all weight down a little might empty front tank unless free camping. Do not like to be close.