I got an excited phone call from our local jayco dealer, same sales person who sold me my new van 3 years ago. He has seen us having a sticky beak in the yard a few time recently at 17 expanda and the starcraft. He told me that he could send me all new details of 2014 vans as he had just recieved them, if I was interested.I think I burst his balloon when I told him I had already seen photos and floor plans of them on A forum a week earlier. He sounded very deflated as he said their yard had only just been given them... Barney.