Ohhh Dear.....poorly loaded caravan accident

[Axl]

Don't know if this has been posted on here yet, wow is all I'll can say. Certainly looks poorly loaded with too much weight on the rear.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldg...just_speed_past_this_semi_with_an_improperly/

 

[bigcol]

lucky he went left

and not right.................. over the edge

 

[Drover]

While it's a damn long rig it just doesn't look like the wheels are really in the best position on that trailer, hence the name pig trailers,then Yanks have some big long rigs...saw something that looked that long recently but it was a tri axle job dragged around by a RAM, jam on trailer brakes and peddle to the metal can straighten them out sometimes.

 

[mikerezny]

While it's a damn long rig it just doesn't look like the wheels are really in the best position on that trailer, hence the name pig trailers,then Yanks have some big long rigs...saw something that looked that long recently but it was a tri axle job dragged around by a RAM, jam on trailer brakes and peddle to the metal can straighten them out sometimes.

Hi @Drover,
from the dashcam, the truck was doing 66mph. The RV that shot past must have been doing at least 75pmh.
How much peddle did the driver still have left to put to the metal!!!!

cheers
Mike

 

[Macca_75]

So good time to test my understanding. A new trailer with ESC would have locked the brakes on and tried to "drag" the trailer into a straight line wouldn't it?

 

[NoWorries]

So good time to test my understanding. A new trailer with ESC would have locked the brakes on and tried to "drag" the trailer into a straight line wouldn't it?

Yep, that is the theory

 

[bigcol]

as long as you NEVER accelerate

always use the manual brake on the electronic brakes to help bring the van back into line

 

[Glen Bundesen]

So good time to test my understanding. A new trailer with ESC would have locked the brakes on and tried to "drag" the trailer into a straight line wouldn't it?

Actually an ESC applies alternatively, only one side brake (to the side swerving out) to slow the 'fish tailing'.

 

[alexvk2]

Actually an ESC applies alternatively, only one side brake (to the side swerving out) to slow the 'fish tailing'.

there are two types one applies to both sides at once and the other alternately

 

[Macca_75]

there are two types one applies to both sides at once and the other alternately

So I wonder which my 2016 Expanda has?

 

[bigcol]

ESC - by definition - Electronic Stability Control
apparently (as there is several types on the market ) once the Van is moving more than 5* (I think) it will activate the brakes on the relevant side to bring it back to normal
so it will brake one side at a time to correct it

Electronic Brakes (minimum requirement under the Law for over 750kgs towed) activates BOTH wheels brakes when activated either as you brake, or if you activate the emergency switch / slide / button (depending on which controller

 

[Macca_75]

The Alko manual does not indicate the exact action either.

 

[Macca_75]

Although I can't fin the reference for their info, this article suggests all 4 brakes at the same time for the Alko one.

https://www.caravanworld.com.au/features/1510/esc-vs-dsc-sway-control-system-test

 

[Rockape]

I have the ALKO system fitted to my Jayco Journey. The ALKO system applies all the caravan brakes at the same time. The other system on the market made by Dexter allpies brakes brakes on either the L/H, R/H or both sides depending on the situation.
Cheers
Nick

 

[Drover]

I think it depends on the G's which way they go, in the case in question I wonder if they would have done anything other than delay the in result..........ESC won't save all situations, especially if tug and van have poor tyre pressures as well, I think once the tug starts to go thats it, all over red rover.

 

[mikerezny]

Hi,
I must admit, that although I was horrified to view this video, I somehow also felt it didn't really apply to me.

Why? Well since I only tow a relatively small Penguin, I shouldn't need to worry about these issues as they relate to those other BIG vans.

Oh, Oh, Oh, how completely wrong I was.
I just viewed this video posted on another forum showing a disaster happening, in Australia, whilst towing a small camper trailer very similar to our Penguin.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1552474044812230

Certainly wiped that smug look off my face!!!

cheers
Mike

 

[Macca_75]

Hi,
I must admit, that although I was horrified to view this video, I somehow also felt it didn't really apply to me.

Why? Well since I only tow a relatively small Penguin, I shouldn't need to worry about these issues as they relate to those other BIG vans.

Oh, Oh, Oh, how completely wrong I was.
I just viewed this video posted on another forum showing a disaster happening, in Australia, whilst towing a small camper trailer very similar to our Penguin.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1552474044812230

Certainly wiped that smug look off my face!!!

cheers
Mike

Saw that one on DashCam Australia's Facebook page - I can only guess maybe the lid clips either failed or weren't secured correctly. Different issue I guess but still going to ruin your holiday.

 

[1DayIll]

One of those jobs you always double check before you drive off.

 

[Drover]

I have seen a Swan trying to do a Swan dive into the table drain, very lucky he pulled it back, little car thing was the tug though.