Starcraft 19.61-3

Crusty181

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The little 2.5lt @Crusty181

@Bluey getting 15-16s for me (non-towing) i could live with, but when your doubling that and a bit for towing, it gets a little crazy. Very reputable workshop that completed the works and it has plenty of power, espescially down low, so I dont think i could bring myself to going back to standard and reflashing my ECU.

We'll see what next weekends trip brings around figures wise.......I see some nice 200series in the local rag for a small fortune :nod:
Ive gt the the V6 which every expert knows is the greatest vehicle ever, but that's for a standalone thread. I traded up from a 2009 2.5ltr, same color and transferred the canopy so the neighbors where oblivious (I dont like change too much).

We had a 16.49 OB back then and the 2.5 Nav had a Steinbauer chip which despite all the neck cracking, nose bleeding reviews, but it was very subtle. All that general Nav chitta chatta aside I was getting 10 free balling, and around 14 towing, but mine was manual. One of the major fuel issues with the 2.5 configuration was that damn auto. I had an 'associate' with an auto, his father inlaw with and auto Pathfinder and a ebay dude I bought some stuff off all getting way north of 20s towing small vans.

I had a loan auto model when the dealer needed to keep mine for a few days warranty work, and it was easy to see why it they were thirsty when combined with the catalytic converter it was constantly revving much much higher than how a normal human would drive a manual.

Long story short, the autos are a shocker for towing and gave the model a un-deserved horrible name, and the upshot is if yours
is an auto and your towing your stuck with really bad fuel usage ..... possible not as bad as your getting but at least well into the 20's with a small van. What size is your van??
 
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Ive gt the the V6 which every expert knows is the greatest vehicle ever, but that's for a standalone thread. I traded up from a 2009 2.5ltr, same color and transferred the canopy so the neighbors where oblivious (I dont like change too much).

We had a 16.49 OB back then and the 2.5 Nav had a Steinbauer chip which despite all the neck cracking, nose bleeding reviews, but it was very subtle. All that general Nav chitta chatta aside I was getting 10 free balling, and around 14 towing, but mine was manual. One of the major fuel issues with the 2.5 configuration was that damn auto. I had an 'associate' with an auto, his father inlaw with and auto Pathfinder and a ebay dude I bought some stuff off all getting way north of 20s towing small vans.

I had a loan auto model when the dealer needed to keep mine for a few days warranty work, and it was easy to see why it they were thirsty when combined with the catalytic converter it was constantly revving much much higher than how a normal human would drive a manual.

Long story short, the autos are a shocker for towing and gave the model a un-deserved horrible name, and the upshot is if yours
is an auto and your towing your stuck with really bad fuel usage ..... possible not as bad as your getting but at least well into the 20's with a small van. What size is your van??
Yep mine is the dreaded Auto! And you have hit the nail on the head io think....i will be stuck with terrible usage unfortunately (no matter how much fine tuning of things i do to the van and rig.

We have just picked up our new 19.61-3 OB.......so it is a big tall van with a tare of close to 2.4t, but we had at least another 200kgs inside it loaded, plus the ute was chockas with fridges, spare tyres, 4 x days of shopping in Perth! (yeah we dont see the shops much from up our way), oh and the whole fam. So fair to say she was a fair load.

Again im happy with the way it pulled for a small engine, somewhat surprised at times, that economy but :(
The hardest thing will be letting it go as the $$$$$ ive put into it is a fair amount. But an ending is a beginning somewhere else........
 

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Picked ours up on Monday. Saying we are Very happy with it would be an understatement .
Hope the three weeks flies by!
Just wondering what power unit are they putting in ,is it the setec 35amp series 3 which is the big black box or have they used the new j hub j35 in your van.
 

Pauly

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Gyday @Smash
Sorry Been a bit hectic with school hols and back at work
Some pics

Break camp from Fraser Island Friday
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En route to pick up van back in Vic
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monday pick up, still fully loaded from a week on Fraser
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Has the setec unit in ours.
Havnt had a chance to do much yet . We took it up to the goulburn River just outa Jamison last weekend. image.jpeg image.jpeg
Got a diesel heater in (unfortunately couldn't go gas )
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2000 watt inverter in but I haven't hard wired the 240 volt side yet
Fitted my old Gerry holders which I also mount our Bimini to and fitted a cold tap to one.
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Few little things like gas detector , Fitted many extra hooks hand towel ring moved cup holder
Melted the twelve pin plug already so changed over to Anderson and seven and wired in the car for rear camera.
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Pretty eager to sort out all the bits that really make em ya own but in no rush and I really struggle for time. Just darn chuffed to have a van again :clap2:

Cheers
PAULY
 

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I have been told my new Starcraft 19.61-3 will be here for next friday.The only disappointment new is after trying to upgrade the van with a compressor fridge and being told no they have just this week release it as an Option.
 
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greynt

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Gyday @Smash
Sorry Been a bit hectic with school hols and back at work
Some pics

Break camp from Fraser Island Friday
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En route to pick up van back in Vic
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monday pick up, still fully loaded from a week on Fraser
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Has the setec unit in ours.
Havnt had a chance to do much yet . We took it up to the goulburn River just outa Jamison last weekend. View attachment 56104 View attachment 56113
Got a diesel heater in (unfortunately couldn't go gas )
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2000 watt inverter in but I haven't hard wired the 240 volt side yet
Fitted my old Gerry holders which I also mount our Bimini to and fitted a cold tap to one.
View attachment 56107
Few little things like gas detector , Fitted many extra hooks hand towel ring moved cup holder
Melted the twelve pin plug already so changed over to Anderson and seven and wired in the car for rear camera.
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Pretty eager to sort out all the bits that really make em ya own but in no rush and I really struggle for time. Just darn chuffed to have a van again :clap2:

Cheers
PAULY
G'day @Pauly have you got photo's of where you mounted the diesel heater and how do you find it heats the van?

Cheers
Matt
 

Smash

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Gyday @Smash
Sorry Been a bit hectic with school hols and back at work
Some pics

Break camp from Fraser Island Friday
View attachment 56111
En route to pick up van back in Vic
View attachment 56112
monday pick up, still fully loaded from a week on Fraser
View attachment 56114
View attachment 56101
View attachment 56102 View attachment 56103 View attachment 56109
Has the setec unit in ours.
Havnt had a chance to do much yet . We took it up to the goulburn River just outa Jamison last weekend. View attachment 56104 View attachment 56113
Got a diesel heater in (unfortunately couldn't go gas )
View attachment 56106
2000 watt inverter in but I haven't hard wired the 240 volt side yet
Fitted my old Gerry holders which I also mount our Bimini to and fitted a cold tap to one.
View attachment 56107
Few little things like gas detector , Fitted many extra hooks hand towel ring moved cup holder
Melted the twelve pin plug already so changed over to Anderson and seven and wired in the car for rear camera.
View attachment 56108 View attachment 56110
Pretty eager to sort out all the bits that really make em ya own but in no rush and I really struggle for time. Just darn chuffed to have a van again :clap2:

Cheers
PAULY
Nice looking van we pick ours up this coming Saturday can't wait.just by interest what is your atm weight on your complience plate so I can check mine to see if up graded weight been applied.
 
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Pauly

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Nice looking van we pick ours up this coming Saturday can't wait.just by interest what is your atm weight on your complience plate so I can check mine to see if up graded weight been applied.
Have a great day satdy @Smash !!
Our tare is 2378, atm is 2978 and gtm 2770.
They can vary from build to build.
Just check the difference between tare and atm for your payload.

G'day @Pauly have you got photo's of where you mounted the diesel heater and how do you find it heats the van?

Cheers
Matt
Gyday @greynt
We have it under the bunk right at The back.
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There's a duct pointing up the van through the kitchen and a duct that points toward the ensuite.
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Great heater quickly warms the van!! , could easily turn it into a sauna! just darn noisy compared to gas heaters we've had on previous vans but couldn't go gas this time.
 
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Smash

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Have a great day satdy @Smash !!
Our tare is 2378, atm is 2978 and gtm 2770.
They can vary from build to build.
Just check the difference between tare and atm for your payload.



Gyday @greynt
We have it under the bunk right at The back.
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There's a duct pointing up the van through the kitchen and a duct that points toward the ensuite.
View attachment 56396
Great heater quickly warms the van!! , could easily turn it into a sauna! just darn noisy compared to gas heaters we've had on previous vans but couldn't go gas this time.
How come you didn't fit a Gas heater the full off-road model has one fitter under the bunks that's where I will fit ours.
 

Smash

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Have a great day satdy @Smash !!
Our tare is 2378, atm is 2978 and gtm 2770.
They can vary from build to build.
Just check the difference between tare and atm for your payload.



Gyday @greynt
We have it under the bunk right at The back.
View attachment 56395
There's a duct pointing up the van through the kitchen and a duct that points toward the ensuite.
View attachment 56396
Great heater quickly warms the van!! , could easily turn it into a sauna! just darn noisy compared to gas heaters we've had on previous vans but couldn't go gas this time.
Have a great day satdy @Smash !!
Our tare is 2378, atm is 2978 and gtm 2770.
They can vary from build to build.
Just check the difference between tare and atm for your payload.



Gyday @greynt
We have it under the bunk right at The back.
View attachment 56395
There's a duct pointing up the van through the kitchen and a duct that points toward the ensuite.
View attachment 56396
Great heater quickly warms the van!! , could easily turn it into a sauna! just darn noisy compared to gas heaters we've had on previous vans but couldn't go gas this time.
I just got a copy of weights tare 2319 ATM 2919
 

Pauly

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Oh poo so it does..... There looks to be a bit more clearance from the hatch than ours though , needs 300mm I think.

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I wanted to run the exhaust out the back wall but got told I could not . Would have been a lil awkward getting to the cover behind my Gerry holders if we did anyhow.
I would have preferred gas but next best thing.
 

Smash

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Oh poo so it does..... There looks to be a bit more clearance from the hatch than ours though , needs 300mm I think.

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I wanted to run the exhaust out the back wall but got told I could not . Would have been a lil awkward getting to the cover behind my Gerry holders if we did anyhow.
I would have preferred gas but next best thing.
Oh poo so it does..... There looks to be a bit more clearance from the hatch than ours though , needs 300mm I think.

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I wanted to run the exhaust out the back wall but got told I could not . Would have been a lil awkward getting to the cover behind my Gerry holders if we did anyhow.
I would have preferred gas but next best thing.
What was the reason for not having it in the rear wall thats where I am hoping to mount mine .I need to replace my rear bumper because I want twin wheel carrier.
 

Pauly

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Supposedly gas Regulations?
Never looked further into it after that, hopefully they weren't telling porky pies.